LittleNemoNES
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And endorsement is not the same as the Obama\Wright relationship.
Is it America hating to say America has been judged?
Or to curse America by saying God damn American?
Originally posted by: Corbett
I think the bigger problem is the fact that liberals see Christians say things like "wage war" and "eradicate false religions" and actually think they are referring to violence. Parsley makes no mention of "genocide" or even "killing". It shows just how little libarals actually know about these types of discussions that Christians like Parsley bring up.
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Corbett
I think the bigger problem is the fact that liberals see Christians say things like "wage war" and "eradicate false religions" and actually think they are referring to violence. Parsley makes no mention of "genocide" or even "killing". It shows just how little libarals actually know about these types of discussions that Christians like Parsley bring up.
Aren't you the one of the same people that saw Ahmadinejad's remark's about "wipe Israel off the face of the map" and automatically assumed that he meant via violence?
Ahmadinajad made no mention of "genocide" or even "killing". It just shows how little conservatives actually know about these types of discussions that non-Zionists like Ahmadinajad bring up.
Originally posted by: Corbett
I think the bigger problem is the fact that liberals see Christians say things like "wage war" and "eradicate false religions" and actually think they are referring to violence. Parsley makes no mention of "genocide" or even "killing". It shows just how little libarals actually know about these types of discussions that Christians like Parsley bring up.
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Corbett
I think the bigger problem is the fact that liberals see Christians say things like "wage war" and "eradicate false religions" and actually think they are referring to violence. Parsley makes no mention of "genocide" or even "killing". It shows just how little libarals actually know about these types of discussions that Christians like Parsley bring up.
Aren't you the one of the same people that saw Ahmadinejad's remark's about "wipe Israel off the face of the map" and automatically assumed that he meant via violence?
Ahmadinajad made no mention of "genocide" or even "killing". It just shows how little conservatives actually know about these types of discussions that non-Zionists like Ahmadinajad bring up.
I'm going to wipe you and your entire family off the map. What? I didn't say by violence!
yeah I think the Obama/Wright relationship can be described exactly as that...a relationship. which includes both good and bad, tolerance and acceptance. That is something I can relate to. The pastor at my church recently spoke out in support of a California State Constitutional Amendment to declare marriage as only between a man and a woman. My stomach still turns thinking about how such an influential church PASTOR could preach something that is so clearly against the teachings of Jesus Christ. I am still very upset about my pastors views on the subject, and even more upset that he used his pulpit to preach politics. But that doesn't turn me off on him, he is still a man with a lot of good things to say, and he is a man that has done incredible things with this church and in the community. So I can sympathize with the need to be accepting of a person (or Pastor) which includes all the good, and all the bad he/she has to offer the world. Tolerance.Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Genx87 said:
And endorsement is not the same as the Obama\Wright relationship.
Of coarse it isn't. While McCain actively sought out , cultivated and whole heartedly embraced this America hating preacher on stage. While the other, Obama never approached Wright, the other America hating preacher for his political endorsment.
But one is only "worse" than another to the 20 % staunchly partison GOP'ers who would never have voted for Obama anyway.
For the 20% or so of Americans suffering from irony poor blood...
The funny thing is that the loonies of the Right would read this on the air as a legitimately serious tirade against those Liberals.
Recipe:
"Just add 1 blowhard, 2 scoops of fake umbrage, 1 cap of Cognitive Dissonance. Stir until boiling. Sprinkle on a few rib tickling misquotes. Half bake, then self serve."
As long as their are questions about the universe that we can not answer there will be religion.Originally posted by: gersson
Maybe someday ALL religion will be forgotten.
ummm wrong on the bolded part.Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Genx87 said:
And endorsement is not the same as the Obama\Wright relationship.
Of course it isn't. While McCain actively sought out , cultivated and whole heartedly embraced this America hating preacher on stage. While the other, Obama never approached Wright, the other America hating preacher for his political endorsement.
you are assuming Obama joined the church for political purposes.Originally posted by: ProfJohn
ummm wrong on the bolded part.Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Genx87 said:
And endorsement is not the same as the Obama\Wright relationship.
Of course it isn't. While McCain actively sought out , cultivated and whole heartedly embraced this America hating preacher on stage. While the other, Obama never approached Wright, the other America hating preacher for his political endorsement.
The Trinity Church in Chicago is seen as the place to be for up and coming blacks. That is why Oprah started to attend the church herself.
Obama could have picked any church he wanted, but he picked the largest, best known and most influential church. That seems like a political decision as much as a religious one.
Furthermore, in 1982 Wright started a a church magazine that would eventually go national in 2005. According to a writer for the Weekly Standard Wright's message of radical politics is all over the magazine. Obama himself was on the cover once and did an interview for the magazine. If Obama wasn't trying to get the endorsement of Wright and his church then why was he doing a cover story for his magazine? The fact is that until Obama decided to go national and run for President having Wright's church on his side was a good thing. As long as he was a guy serving Chicago or the state of Illinois having someone like Wright on his side was a good thing.
OK so you are guessing.Originally posted by: ProfJohn
That is just a guess, as far as I know we have no idea as to why he joined that church.
But we do know that he stayed in it even after learning of the positions of Wright. Obama can sit there and pretend that he knew nothing about what Wright was preaching, but we would have to be awfully foolish to believe him. As I pointed out in my post above, Wright published a church magazine that included many of his radical beliefs Obama had to have picked up that magazine at least once and saw what Wright was preaching.
Now tell me again how Obama had no clue that Wright has extremist political views.We need to educate our children to the reality of white supremacy.
We need to educate our children about the white supremacist's foundations of the educational system.
When the levees in Louisiana broke alligators, crocodiles and piranha swam freely through what used to be the streets of New Orleans. That is an analogy that we need to drum into the heads of our African American children (and indeed all children!).
In the flood waters of white supremacy .??.??. there are also crocodiles, alligators and piranha!
The policies with which we live now and against which our children will have to struggle in order to bring about "the beloved community," are policies shaped by predators.
We lay a foundation, deconstructing the household of white supremacy with tools that are not the master's tools. We lay the foundation with hope. We deconstruct the vicious and demonic ideology of white supremacy with hope. Our hope is not built on faith-based dollars, empty liberal promises or veiled hate-filled preachments of the so-called conservatives. Our hope is built on Him who came in the flesh to set us free.
White supremacy controls the economic system in America,
the healthcare system in America and the educational
system in America. Hurricane Katrina has pulled the
blinders off of all Americans and shown us what white
supremacy means at its ugly core and what it has done to
the fabric of these ?still-yet-to-be-United States? (to use
Maya Angelou?s term). That is what I see when looking
back during the month of May.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
As long as their are questions about the universe that we can not answer there will be religion.Originally posted by: gersson
Maybe someday ALL religion will be forgotten.
God is the answer to every question that science has yet to answer.
Where did we come from? God.
Where do we go when we die? God.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Here is a link to a column by Wright pulled from the May 2006 issue.
One small quote
White supremacy controls the economic system in America,
the healthcare system in America and the educational
system in America. Hurricane Katrina has pulled the
blinders off of all Americans and shown us what white
supremacy means at its ugly core and what it has done to
the fabric of these ?still-yet-to-be-United States? (to use
Maya Angelou?s term). That is what I see when looking
back during the month of May.
BTW for some odd reason the Trumpet's web site was taken down in March... hmmm wonder why.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Is it America hating to say America has been judged?
Or to curse America by saying God damn American?
"God damn America" was not a "curse". It was essentially the same as saying, "America has been Judged."
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Wait - I thought John Hagee was Mccain's spiritual advisor. How many does he have?
Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
shrumpage said:
Is it America hating to say America has been judged?
Or to curse America by saying God damn American?
Oh Please, your narritive rings hollow, in particular to me. I've already made perfectly clear that Wright is a America hating preacher.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
ummm your guess was wrong
From the May 2006 issue
Now tell me again how Obama had no clue that Wright has extremist political views.We need to educate our children to the reality of white supremacy.
We need to educate our children about the white supremacist's foundations of the educational system.
When the levees in Louisiana broke alligators, crocodiles and piranha swam freely through what used to be the streets of New Orleans. That is an analogy that we need to drum into the heads of our African American children (and indeed all children!).
In the flood waters of white supremacy .??.??. there are also crocodiles, alligators and piranha!
The policies with which we live now and against which our children will have to struggle in order to bring about "the beloved community," are policies shaped by predators.
We lay a foundation, deconstructing the household of white supremacy with tools that are not the master's tools. We lay the foundation with hope. We deconstruct the vicious and demonic ideology of white supremacy with hope. Our hope is not built on faith-based dollars, empty liberal promises or veiled hate-filled preachments of the so-called conservatives. Our hope is built on Him who came in the flesh to set us free.
I know, sometimes the truth hurts, especially when it's about something you hold so near and dear like the concept of the United States being a place of justice and righteousness when it's not always the case.Originally posted by: ProfJohn
While I believe that Wright was saying that God should Damn America in that quote I don't think it maters either way.
In fact I think people would be more accepting of him cursing America as opposed to saying God should Damn America.
The majority of Americans who view America as a place of justice and righteousness are going to not like the idea that America should be damned for its actions.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Here is a link to a column by Wright pulled from the May 2006 issue.
One small quote
White supremacy controls the economic system in America,
the healthcare system in America and the educational
system in America. Hurricane Katrina has pulled the
blinders off of all Americans and shown us what white
supremacy means at its ugly core and what it has done to
the fabric of these ?still-yet-to-be-United States? (to use
Maya Angelou?s term). That is what I see when looking
back during the month of May.
BTW for some odd reason the Trumpet's web site was taken down in March... hmmm wonder why.