McCain's Southern Colorado Campaign Manager Arrested For Child Molestation

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fallout man

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You need to work on your reading comprehension.

The guy has had similar allegations 5 times in the past, but had NEVER been charged with a crime prior to this week.

Right from the link in the article:
Bartleson has been investigated at least five times for similar allegations since 1982, although never charged or convicted of a crime.
How would the campaign know of these allegations since they will most likely not come up in a background check.

I'm sure that if I were to apply for a job as a 5-time "unconvicted borderline pedo," I would not get the job. Seriously now, this was a national presidential campaign. Competent employers Google-news this kind of shit.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: loki8481
if you're unconvicted, why would it be on your resume?

Are you being serious?
Yes, crimes you are accused of but not convicted of are not on your background check.
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: loki8481
if you're unconvicted, why would it be on your resume?

Are you being serious?
Yes, crimes you are accused of but not convicted of are not on your background check.

Thank God!

I was hoping that whole public goat besmirching thing wouldn't affect me down the road.

Whew!

BTW: Did Obama's resume indicate that he was a secret Muslim, or that he was at one point convicted of domestic terrorism? I just need a refresher here. It's been so long.
 

Lanyap

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If the guy is a perv he needs to be put away for a long time.


Was Hired Despite Being Charged With Similar Crimes 5 Times Prior

The article doesn't have a lot of details but they only mention he previously faced similar allegations. It does not say he was charged. If it turns out the person who hired him knew or should have known via a normal background check then the hiring person should be held accountable for the campaign.


Originally posted by: Lemon law
Even as a partisan dem, I find it hard to assume McCain guilt by association.

McCain simply put his trust in someone who turned out to be a jerk. Something that happens with distressing regularity in both parties when the jerk finally gets caught by the short hairs.

Now that we are in a nanny gate climate over tax disputes, its a new litmus test, but pedo is never allowable in any form. And they get to become the dregs of any prison population.

I saw what you did LL. There is nothing in the article that says McCain knew this guy so how could he put his trust in him?

 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Gotta love those Republican Family Values!! :D

its not really a republican thing, more of a religious thing... But you have to admit, there is something wrong with repressive religions and lifestyles. It comes out in the ugliest of ways.

I guess we don't have any athiest or liberal pervs?


 

JD50

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Sounds like it's just one more that needs to be updated on this list:

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.
Republican parole board officer and former legislator George C. (Chris) Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have sex with him.
Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger was arrested for possessing child pornography.
Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl.
Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.
Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.
Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Wow, get a life, seriously.
 

BoomerD

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Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?
 

Fear No Evil

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Can't the democrats just go back to making sure our troops get killed? You know, by cutting their #'s down to levels we can't use. Making sure they are not equipped properly, and releasing the people that tried to kill them from prison because we are 'illegally' holding them. Maybe they could make some more false allegations against them which hurts their image and causes more people to try to kill them?

Fuck this, if this is how the forum is going to be.. I'm going to play this game too.
 

Fear No Evil

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My guess is all the Democrat child rapists get off by using the money they get from pay to play to pay off the authorities.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Can't the democrats just go back to making sure our troops get killed? You know, by cutting their #'s down to levels we can't use. Making sure they are not equipped properly, and releasing the people that tried to kill them from prison because we are 'illegally' holding them. Maybe they could make some more false allegations against them which hurts their image and causes more people to try to kill them?

Fuck this, if this is how the forum is going to be.. I'm going to play this game too.

Oooh...blaming the Dems for the troop draw downs and base closures...that were started by Ronnie Rayguns, then increased by Bush daddy...and Clinton merely followed the timeline laid down by the Republican presidents before him.
I'm sure no one will call BULLSHIT on your ploy. :roll:
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Can't the democrats just go back to making sure our troops get killed? You know, by cutting their #'s down to levels we can't use. Making sure they are not equipped properly, and releasing the people that tried to kill them from prison because we are 'illegally' holding them. Maybe they could make some more false allegations against them which hurts their image and causes more people to try to kill them?

Fuck this, if this is how the forum is going to be.. I'm going to play this game too.

Oooh...blaming the Dems for the troop draw downs and base closures...that were started by Ronnie Rayguns, then increased by Bush daddy...and Clinton merely followed the timeline laid down by the Republican presidents before him.
I'm sure no one will call BULLSHIT on your ploy. :roll:

I'm gonna play the stereotypical third party guy who says "Who gives a fuck, whats done is done, lets think about now"
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

What's wrong with sweeping generalizations? The only folks who have a problem with sweeping generalizations are pussy washed-up hippies. You ain't one of 'em, is you, boy?
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

So, post the list...if you have one.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

So, post the list...if you have one.

Obviously I don't have one, I just said that only partisan tools care about that kind of thing. Your underlying point that Republicans are hypocrites because they preach family values even when a very small minority of Republicans are perverts is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that you know that and you're just playing dumb.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

So, post the list...if you have one.

Obviously I don't have one, I just said that only partisan tools care about that kind of thing. Your underlying point that Republicans are hypocrites because they preach family values even when a very small minority of Republicans are perverts is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that you know that and you're just playing dumb.

Since you're one of the most partisan tools on this board, I'm surprised you DON'T have such a list...and while the overall percentage of Republican Pedophiles may be small, AFAIK, it dwarfs any such list of Democrats.

Clinton may have been a whoremonger, but AFAIK, it was with adult women...Seems like the Republicans have a problem with the adult part...and the woman part...not the fucking part.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

So, post the list...if you have one.

Obviously I don't have one, I just said that only partisan tools care about that kind of thing. Your underlying point that Republicans are hypocrites because they preach family values even when a very small minority of Republicans are perverts is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that you know that and you're just playing dumb.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

FWIW, I don't think any (D)'s are claiming the party is free of pedos, hypocrites, or corruption. Recent events have shown the (D)'s have plenty of skeletons in their closet as well. However, when a government representative votes socially conservative then pleads guilty to trolling for trouser snake in an airport bathroom it leaves them wide open for public ridicule.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
My guess is all the Democrat child rapists get off by using the money they get from pay to play to pay off the authorities.
Lol, why so defensive??:laugh:

Remember that Liberal Talk Show host from Frisco, Bernie Ward? Your fellow Wingnuts had a field day with him.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

So, post the list...if you have one.

Obviously I don't have one, I just said that only partisan tools care about that kind of thing. Your underlying point that Republicans are hypocrites because they preach family values even when a very small minority of Republicans are perverts is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that you know that and you're just playing dumb.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Yea, you're no partisan. :roll: I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries and Bob Barr in the general elections, who did you vote for again?

FWIW, I don't think any (D)'s are claiming the party is free of pedos, hypocrites, or corruption. Recent events have shown the (D)'s have plenty of skeletons in their closet as well. However, when a government representative votes socially conservative then pleads guilty to trolling for trouser snake in an airport bathroom it leaves them wide open for public ridicule.

Of course it makes that individual a huge hypocrite, but it does not mean that the entire Republican party is full of hypocrites because of the actions of one individual. That's like claiming that the entire Democratic party is full of hypocrites just because Tom Daschle didn't pay his taxes.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah...did I hurt your widdle feelings with that big bad list of Republican perverts?

No, I just find it a little funny that you keep a list of "Republican perverts" while ignoring "Democrat perverts". See, to most people it doesn't matter what their party affiliation is, that only matters to partisan tools.

So, post the list...if you have one.

Obviously I don't have one, I just said that only partisan tools care about that kind of thing. Your underlying point that Republicans are hypocrites because they preach family values even when a very small minority of Republicans are perverts is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that you know that and you're just playing dumb.

Since you're one of the most partisan tools on this board, I'm surprised you DON'T have such a list...and while the overall percentage of Republican Pedophiles may be small, AFAIK, it dwarfs any such list of Democrats.

Clinton may have been a whoremonger, but AFAIK, it was with adult women...Seems like the Republicans have a problem with the adult part...and the woman part...not the fucking part.

I'm not the one with a list of ONE PARTIES sex offenders, idiot. You're completely fixated on the political party of these sex offenders, it's a little creepy. WTF does Clinton have to do with this anyways? He had consensual sex with an adult, what does that have to do with child molestation?