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McCain's Lobbyist girlfriend?

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
technically, he only suspended his campaign

although that "i endorse john mccain, i release you to vote for him" thing might be a problem

not sure if "take backsy's" is allowed in primaries or not
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Don't you think it would only serve to re-enforce the 'flip-flopper' image he has? I think it would be almost impossible to convince voters that with his record, and bouncing in and out of the campaign, he's got a steady hand.
 
Originally posted by: Aegeon
The Washington Post appears to have more details on what sort of improper influence Iseman may have had over McCain during this period.

Three telecom lobbyists and a former McCain aide, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that Iseman spoke up regularly at meetings of telecom lobbyists in Washington, extolling her connections to McCain and his office. She would regularly volunteer at those meetings to be the point person for the telecom industry in dealing with McCain's office...

In the years that McCain chaired the commerce committee, Iseman lobbied for Lowell W. "Bud" Paxson, the head of what used to be Paxson Communications, now Ion Media Networks, and was involved in a successful lobbying campaign to persuade McCain and other members of Congress to send letters to the Federal Communications Commission on behalf of Paxson.

In late 1999, McCain wrote two letters to the FCC urging a vote on the sale to Paxson of a Pittsburgh television station. The sale had been highly contentious in Pittsburgh and involved a multipronged lobbying effort among the parties to the deal.

At the time he sent the first letter, McCain had flown on Paxson's corporate jet four times to appear at campaign events and had received $20,000 in campaign donations from Paxson and its law firm. The second letter came on Dec. 10, a day after the company's jet ferried him to a Florida fundraiser that was held aboard a yacht in West Palm Beach.

McCain has argued that the letters merely urged a decision and did not call for action on Paxson's behalf. But when the letters became public, William E. Kennard, chairman of the FCC at the time, denounced them as "highly unusual" coming from McCain, whose committee chairmanship gave him oversight of the agency.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/...2898.html?hpid=topnews
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I came in here to say this is a non-story, but as Pat Buchanan suggested on MSNBC tonight there has got to be more here for the NY Times to run it. This article seems to add a bit more, I think even if you take out the implication of a sexual affair, this makes the news. Add in that bit and it makes for a hell of a scandal.

People talk about McCain being brought down.. wouldn't he have to score like 5% in the rest of the races to lose? Or is there some mechanism for the Republicans to knock him out? I suppose if the story develops further he may be pressured to step down.
 
Originally posted by: MadRat
She's hot he's not. And she's basically playing the part of Pretty Woman only with an agenda that doesn't involve him paying her. It's an all too common theme these days. Hot chic whoos old fartbag to do her bidding and gets rich in the process. Really, with the garbage on television these days its amazing all our girls don't grow up to be whores.
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Cliff's on McCain

McCain is an old fartbag.

His wife had all the money before he showed up.

Amazing all our politicians don't grow up to be whores, umm, this note is under revision.
 
I don't care for McCain at all but this story seems like a tempest in a teapot. Unless someone can show he had hot monkey love with this woman it really seems like a non-starter. I mean - a lobbyist has a politician's ear? Is that supposed to be some kind of shocker?
 
I really wouldn't care about a politician having an affair. However, this alleged affair happens to be with a lobbyist, which makes me question the ethics involved. If the story is true, I would assume that McCain passed a few bucks to whatever party she lobbies for. Although I also doubt the validity of the claims, they do come at the best possible time for McCain. He has the nomination secured, and months to recover. Had they come right before New Hampshire, or a week before the general, then he would have problems. He'll deny the whole thing and it will blow over in a couple weeks.
 
can I put on my tinfoil hat and make a baseless speculation?

what if the McCain camp put this story out there themselves, knowing it wouldn't do any damage this far before the election, but giving the rabid base cover to support him via attacking the liberal media/nytimes?
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't care for McCain at all but this story seems like a tempest in a teapot. Unless someone can show he had hot monkey love with this woman it really seems like a non-starter. I mean - a lobbyist has a politician's ear? Is that supposed to be some kind of shocker?
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This is not just any politician. This is John McCain.
 
Originally posted by: Aegeon
The Washington Post appears to have more details on what sort of improper influence Iseman may have had over McCain during this period.

Three telecom lobbyists and a former McCain aide, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that Iseman spoke up regularly at meetings of telecom lobbyists in Washington, extolling her connections to McCain and his office. She would regularly volunteer at those meetings to be the point person for the telecom industry in dealing with McCain's office...

In the years that McCain chaired the commerce committee, Iseman lobbied for Lowell W. "Bud" Paxson, the head of what used to be Paxson Communications, now Ion Media Networks, and was involved in a successful lobbying campaign to persuade McCain and other members of Congress to send letters to the Federal Communications Commission on behalf of Paxson.

In late 1999, McCain wrote two letters to the FCC urging a vote on the sale to Paxson of a Pittsburgh television station. The sale had been highly contentious in Pittsburgh and involved a multipronged lobbying effort among the parties to the deal.

At the time he sent the first letter, McCain had flown on Paxson's corporate jet four times to appear at campaign events and had received $20,000 in campaign donations from Paxson and its law firm. The second letter came on Dec. 10, a day after the company's jet ferried him to a Florida fundraiser that was held aboard a yacht in West Palm Beach.

McCain has argued that the letters merely urged a decision and did not call for action on Paxson's behalf. But when the letters became public, William E. Kennard, chairman of the FCC at the time, denounced them as "highly unusual" coming from McCain, whose committee chairmanship gave him oversight of the agency.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/...2898.html?hpid=topnews
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Well, now this story is beginning to have more legs. By itself, this won't do much, but i'm interested in what else is coming out.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't care for McCain at all but this story seems like a tempest in a teapot. Unless someone can show he had hot monkey love with this woman it really seems like a non-starter. I mean - a lobbyist has a politician's ear? Is that supposed to be some kind of shocker?
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This is not just any politician. This is John McCain.
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The same John McCain that's going to lose to Obama in November? 😉
 
I would like to thank the media for finally doing their jobs this election year by smearing the Republican candidate.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I would like to thank the media for finally doing their jobs this election year by smearing the Republican candidate.
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Warning to new members, sadly this isn't sarcasim--jpeyton actually believes this.

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As others have stated, surprise surprise once the Republican nominee emerged the head of the liberal media, NYT, set all their dogs on him.
I wonder if the NYT will go after the FACTS/EVIDENCE of the Obama-Rezko connection as much as the hearsay over McCain/Iseman

In sharp contrast to his tough talk about ethics reform in government, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., approached a well-known Illinois political fixer under active federal investigation, Antoin "Tony" Rezko, for "advice" as he sought to find a way to buy a house shortly after being elected to the United States Senate.

The parcel included an adjacent lot which Obama told the Chicago Tribune he could not afford because "it was already a stretch to buy the house."

On the same day Obama closed on his house, Rezko's wife bought the adjacent empty lot, meeting the condition of the seller who wanted to sell both properties at the same time.

Rezko had been widely reported to be under investigation by the U.S. attorney and the FBI at the time Obama contacted him and has since been indicted on corruption charges by a federal grand jury in a case that prosecutors say involves bribes, kickbacks and "efforts to illegally obtain millions of dollars."

This week, a federal judge in Chicago ordered the Rezko trial to begin Feb. 25.

Obama maintains his relationship with Rezko was "above board and legal" but has admitted bad judgment, calling his decision to involve Rezko "a bone-headed mistake."

Rezko's behind-the-scenes connection in the Obama house deal became public as Rezko revealed personal financial details as he sought to post bail.

While Rezko's wife paid the full asking price for the land, Obama paid $300,000 under the asking price for the house. The house sold for $1,650,000 and the price Rezko's wife paid for the land was $625,000.
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All those FACTS out there and yet the NYT will be silent--except when they attack McCain with HEARSAY for, at least, the next 9 months.
 
This sounds like a bunch of slander being promoted by the Clinton Hit Machine.

The NY Times is not famous for its truthful reporting.
 
Hey Guys,

Good job on attacking the messagers! But I would want to know if someone who could be president did something illegal wouldn't you?

Are these attacks on the newspapers for printing these articles an example of hypocrisy:

The media reporting damaging information on my opponent is good.

The media reporting damaging information on my guy they are the LIBERAL MEDIA ATTACKING CONSERVATIVES!!!! or SMEAR CAMPAIGN!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Pabster
McCain Camp Vows To 'Go To War' With NY Times

Gentlemen, Start Your Engines :laugh:
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Dumb asses, they should just ignore it instead of naking a big deal out of it. Americans are interested in this bullshit.
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Reporters wouldn't let them ignore it. Once they've got a story handed to them, they don't let it go until there's blood. If he ignored it, the story would be that McCain wouldn't comment on the allegations. The implication would be that there's some credibility and he was hoping it would go away, otherwise why wouldn't he say it wasn't true. If McCain issued a short statement that it wasn't true and then refused to comment futher, the story would be that he issued a flat denial but refused to go into the issue and explain himself...
what is he trying to hide?


I know this after listening to hours of talk about whether Michelle Obama is proud of America... and this wasn't on Fox News. She actually felt forced to come out and issue a statement that she did love her country.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Pabster
McCain Camp Vows To 'Go To War' With NY Times

Gentlemen, Start Your Engines :laugh:
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Dumb asses, they should just ignore it instead of naking a big deal out of it. Americans are interested in this bullshit.
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Yup. Dirty Laundry.

It's the New American Way - and this story has it all. Political intrigue. Presidential implications. 'Special' Interests. Disgruntled Insiders. Luvvvvv :brokenheart:

It's even better that she was half his age. I wonder if Mac stocked up on ED drugs - lol.

I think the NYT picked the right time for the story. If they had used it before Iowa it would have sunk Mac before the race began. If they ran with the story in the Fall it would have had huge implications in the election.

I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. And by November it will be little more than a distant memory ...

Unless Mac is lying his ass off - which he has a propensity to do 🙂

 
As others have stated in here....if it is "just an affair", it is his and his family's business to sort out. Although it does speak to his character, we all have flaws and this is just an exposure of one of his. It probably should not be as newsworthy as it will end up being made to be.

If however, he was peddling influence in return for donations, special perks (private jet trips, etc) and whatever else.....then it is a story that needs to be told and brought into the public domain.

What most people deriding the NYT keep forgetting is that the EDITORIAL board is liberal. The NEWS department is very neutral, competent and very much only concerned with reporting on stories that they can verify and validate so as to keep them out of the courts fighting slander/libel charges.

FNC talking heads are throwing out there this AM. I heard them saying that McCain is a public figure and the woman is not...if it turns out to be false, can she sue? I don't really follow that line of reasoning though because I would think that a person lobbying congress and taking part in the bill writing process is certainly a public figure)

Edit: ease of reading.
 
The NEWS department is very neutral, competent and very much only concerned with reporting on stories that they can verify
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so discounting unnamed sources, what information does this article really present?
 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Hey Guys,

Good job on attacking the messagers! But I would want to know if someone who could be president did something illegal wouldn't you?

Are these attacks on the newspapers for printing these articles an example of hypocrisy:

The media reporting damaging information on my opponent is good.

The media reporting damaging information on my guy they are the LIBERAL MEDIA ATTACKING CONSERVATIVES!!!! or SMEAR CAMPAIGN!!!!
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1. Um, they published a seriously damaging article in an election year, after holding onto it months after they acquired the info (so McCain could get the nomination first?) and cite to anonymous sources. The NY Times reputation will carry its stories far, but not that far. I think we have a right to know who is making these accusations.

2. If he didn't grant her lobby any special favors, I could care less if she polished his viagra laden pole. Good for him.
 
I didn't care about Clinton's sex life, I don't care about McCain's. Personally, I would rather not think of their sex lives at all. So long as they aren't screwing underaged kids /care
 
Originally posted by: Dari
I hate to be the first post after the OP, but has anybody seen McCain's wife? Especially yesterday when he may the "eloquent but empty rhetoric" speech? WTF is wrong with her eyes? They looked scary on my HDTV.
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She used to be a pretty heavy drug addict ........ maybe she's still poppin'?

 
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