On drudge he reports that Zogby will announce on Sat. that Obama now trails McCain. Kinda astounding because it would be a 8 point one day swing. Drudge Home Page
McCain now leads according to Zogby
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Drudge loves to take one anomalous poll and make it a huge flashing red headline while ignoring nine others that show a consistency.
If this election turns out to be anything other than a pro- Obama blowout, it will condemn the culture and mentality of America in a very profound way.
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Not surprisingly, Zogby is third from last in FiveThirtyEight.com's weighting system for the national trackers.
They had Obama up +7 on 10/29; this would be an 8 point swing in two days. :laugh:
If Harris, Rasmussen, Gallup and AP produce similar results tomorrow, then it's a story.
They had Obama up +7 on 10/29; this would be an 8 point swing in two days. :laugh:
If Harris, Rasmussen, Gallup and AP produce similar results tomorrow, then it's a story.
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And for anyone who does not under the polls you should know that they are all about party make up and how they are balanced.
Nearly every poll shows McCain and Obama getting the same number of Democrat, Republicans and independents. The only difference between the polls is what the pollster guesses will be the election day make up. Change the make up by a point and you change the out come by a point.
Nearly every poll shows McCain and Obama getting the same number of Democrat, Republicans and independents. The only difference between the polls is what the pollster guesses will be the election day make up. Change the make up by a point and you change the out come by a point.
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Darn, I was going to let the righties start getting all worked up before hitting them with the Zogby of the 29th, but you beat me to it.
The ONLY possible reason anyone would get excited over this is if the fix was in and the Republicans needed at least one poll to show a McCain lead before they Diebolded the election.
:laugh: Funny, the bolded part...
I have to call B.S. on any poll showing McCain flat or tied. As a Republican, as much as I'd love to believe it, I can't.
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For the record:
2004 final poll results
Zogby had the outcome right, but had it closer than it turned out to be.
TIPP had the outcome nearly pegged, closest of all pollsters.
Gallup had Bush and Kerry tied.
GWU Battleground had Bush with a 4 point victory, mainly because the were low on the Kerry vote.
Interesting only two independent pollsters missed the outcome, Marist and Fox News of all people.
2004 final poll results
Zogby had the outcome right, but had it closer than it turned out to be.
TIPP had the outcome nearly pegged, closest of all pollsters.
Gallup had Bush and Kerry tied.
GWU Battleground had Bush with a 4 point victory, mainly because the were low on the Kerry vote.
Interesting only two independent pollsters missed the outcome, Marist and Fox News of all people.
That's why I have not changed the graphic on my map yet.
Cannot trust the polls as much as you can trust a stripper pole to be germ free.
A one day poll? The margin of error must be through the roof on that thing, Talk about an outlier.
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