McCain laments selection of Ifill as VP moderator

GTKeeper

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I will just say this:


The GOP is coming up with so many excuses for this and that, its mind boggling.


Do they seriously expect, that if elected, Palin will never be asked a trick question, or a 'tough' question or an 'unfair' question?

At the same time does McCain expect 0 bias in this world when he is president?

 

yuppiejr

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As an admitted conservative, I like the pick... Based on the format and rules I've seen published I don't think the moderator has a lot of sway in the way the debate will go... but on the flip side there is NO room for Biden supporters to cry unfair if he gets handed his ass in this debate. Home field advantage and all...

McCain signed off on the moderator - he needs to shut up and live with his decision and let his VP do her thing.
 

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I see nothing inconsistent here. First he speaks rationally and secondly he voices fears he says he will ignore in favor of rationality and confidence in the interviewer and her professionalism. What is wrong with expression concerns he has to trust where data raises doubts?
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
More straight talk from the Maverick.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politi...1002/pl_politico/14207
Hahahah just as everybody predicted. First the maverick has no problem with it, then raises an objection a few hours before the debate. :laugh:
Perhaps he had no problem with it because he did not know she was writing a book with Obama in the title?

She herself has admitted to not telling the Debate Commission about the book.
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The host of PBS? ?Washington Week? and senior correspondent on ?The NewsHour? said she did not tell the Commission on Presidential Debates about the book. The commission had no immediate comment when contacted by The Associated Press. A spokeswoman for John McCain?s campaign did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I see nothing inconsistent here. First he speaks rationally and secondly he voices fears he says he will ignore in favor of rationality and confidence in the interviewer and her professionalism. What is wrong with expression concerns he has to trust where data raises doubts?

Agreed. McCain is not inconsistent or flip-flopping on this issue.

He repeatedly defers to Ifill's professionalism and states clearly that he has some concern about her but he will trust that she lives up to her reputation as a journalist first and foremost.

This is one of the silliest reasons to bash McCain and should probably be left to die a slow death.
 

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I agree with him because he is right. I want to see Biden ravage the fvck out of Palin and make her cry and run off stage as much as the next guy, but Ifill is clearly an inappropriate moderator for this debate. Maybe she'll be fine, maybe not, but there are billions of people who've not written books about the Obama age who could potentially have moderated.
 

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To be fair to Ifill also, from the sounds of it her book is more about the plight of black politicians and Obama is the primary and not the sole focus.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
More straight talk from the Maverick.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politi...1002/pl_politico/14207
Hahahah just as everybody predicted. First the maverick has no problem with it, then raises an objection a few hours before the debate. :laugh:
Perhaps he had no problem with it because he did not know she was writing a book with Obama in the title?

The moderators were announced one year ago. If the McCain campaign didn't know she was writing a book, when it was publicized over a month ago, then they are admitting to a serious failure in research and due diligence. So which is it, hypocritical or incompetent?
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with him because he is right. I want to see Biden ravage the fvck out of Palin and make her cry and run off stage as much as the next guy, but Ifill is clearly an inappropriate moderator for this debate. Maybe she'll be fine, maybe not, but there are billions of people who've not written books about the Obama age who could potentially have moderated.

What the hell is the difference. You are going to wind up arguing one loony tune defense of Palin or another anyway. That the moderator was biased is as good as any.
 

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I am sure Ifill will do her best to help Obama just like everyone else in the MSM. I am expecting more of a pop quiz than debate questions. Play a little gotcha at the debate but this debate is meaningless. Obama is so far ahead it does not matter. I do think to be fair there should be a second VP debate with a fox or talk radio moderator.
 

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Originally posted by: quest55720
I am sure Ifill will do her best to help Obama just like everyone else in the MSM. I am expecting more of a pop quiz than debate questions. Play a little gotcha at the debate but this debate is meaningless. Obama is so far ahead it does not matter. I do think to be fair there should be a second VP debate with a fox or talk radio moderator.

How do you explain that McCain signed off on her?

Same questions as have been asked (without answer) numerous times. Did he know about her book ahead of time and not care, making him a hypocrite, or was his campaign so incompetent that they didn't even take the time to do some very very elementary research on the debate moderators before agreeing to them?
 

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: quest55720
I am sure Ifill will do her best to help Obama just like everyone else in the MSM. I am expecting more of a pop quiz than debate questions. Play a little gotcha at the debate but this debate is meaningless. Obama is so far ahead it does not matter. I do think to be fair there should be a second VP debate with a fox or talk radio moderator.

How do you explain that McCain signed off on her?

Same questions as have been asked (without answer) numerous times. Did he know about her book ahead of time and not care, making him a hypocrite, or was his campaign so incompetent that they didn't even take the time to do some very very elementary research on the debate moderators before agreeing to them?

They did not know I am sure if they did they would of said no. His people over looked something big deal. It was who ever put together the debates that made the mistake of signing off on her. It is them who should of done the research to find out this huge Obama supporter.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: quest55720
I am sure Ifill will do her best to help Obama just like everyone else in the MSM. I am expecting more of a pop quiz than debate questions. Play a little gotcha at the debate but this debate is meaningless. Obama is so far ahead it does not matter. I do think to be fair there should be a second VP debate with a fox or talk radio moderator.

How do you explain that McCain signed off on her?

Same questions as have been asked (without answer) numerous times. Did he know about her book ahead of time and not care, making him a hypocrite, or was his campaign so incompetent that they didn't even take the time to do some very very elementary research on the debate moderators before agreeing to them?

They did not know I am sure if they did they would of said no. His people over looked something big deal. It was who ever put together the debates that made the mistake of signing off on her. It is them who should of done the research to find out this huge Obama supporter.

So the McCain campaign has shown twice now with Palin and now with this that they don't even do the basic research before signing off on something. That is flat out incompetence.

If McCain signs off on something, he takes responsibility for his decision. Isn't his the party of personal responsibility? The woman is a professional journalist, she's presumably a Democrat and she did a fine job in the 2004 debate. There's nothing wrong with the network choosing her after that performance.
 

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Originally posted by: quest55720

They did not know I am sure if they did they would of said no. His people over looked something big deal. It was who ever put together the debates that made the mistake of signing off on her. It is them who should of done the research to find out this huge Obama supporter.

How do you know she supports Obama? Her book is about the current generation of black politicians. It is not out yet so you do not know what she says about Obama.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: quest55720
I am sure Ifill will do her best to help Obama just like everyone else in the MSM. I am expecting more of a pop quiz than debate questions. Play a little gotcha at the debate but this debate is meaningless. Obama is so far ahead it does not matter. I do think to be fair there should be a second VP debate with a fox or talk radio moderator.

How do you explain that McCain signed off on her?

Same questions as have been asked (without answer) numerous times. Did he know about her book ahead of time and not care, making him a hypocrite, or was his campaign so incompetent that they didn't even take the time to do some very very elementary research on the debate moderators before agreeing to them?

They did not know I am sure if they did they would of said no. His people over looked something big deal. It was who ever put together the debates that made the mistake of signing off on her. It is them who should of done the research to find out this huge Obama supporter.

So the McCain campaign has shown twice now with Palin and now with this that they don't even do the basic research before signing off on something. That is flat out incompetence.

If McCain signs off on something, he takes responsibility for his decision. Isn't his the party of personal responsibility? The woman is a professional journalist, she's presumably a Democrat and she did a fine job in the 2004 debate. There's nothing wrong with the network choosing her after that performance.

She has a vested interest in the out come of the election. She makes millions on her book if Obama wins. She makes almost nothing if Obama loses. I figure that even a Obama supporter could figure out that it is not fair.

At the end of the day unless biden calls palin the C word this debate does not really matter. Obama is so far ahead it is almost impossible for him to lose.
 

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Easy enough: We just get Ann Coulter for then moderator of the next debate. I'm sure she can remain fair and unbiased in the selection and framing of her questions.

Then things will be all balanced again.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ScottMac
Easy enough: We just get Ann Coulter for then moderator of the next debate. I'm sure she can remain fair and unbiased in the selection and framing of her questions.

Then things will be all balanced again.

yeah, Ifill has the same credibility level as Coulter :roll: Find a reputable conservative and I'd have no problem with it.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ScottMac
Easy enough: We just get Ann Coulter for then moderator of the next debate. I'm sure she can remain fair and unbiased in the selection and framing of her questions.

Then things will be all balanced again.
LOL, that'd hand the Democrats the election.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: quest55720

She has a vested interest in the out come of the election. She makes millions on her book if Obama wins. She makes almost nothing if Obama loses. I figure that even a Obama supporter could figure out that it is not fair.

At the end of the day unless biden calls palin the C word this debate does not really matter. Obama is so far ahead it is almost impossible for him to lose.

Man it sounds more and more like McCain shouldn't have signed off on such an unfair moderator. If McCain can't even spend 10 minutes to google the name of the debate moderators before he signs off on them, doesn't that say awful things about the way he runs things?