McCain at the Final Debate

jonks

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McCain's campaign and Palin have been hitting the Ayers card very hard on the stump and on every Fox interview they give. Yet at the 2nd debate McCain didn't go there. His numbers have not gone up, he has about 3 weeks till D-Day, and his party is now begging him to bring up Ayers and Wright at the debate.

I think he's either too embarrassed to do it face to face, or just thinks it won't play well in a debate while the stock market is 40% off it's year high and here he is talking about a 1960s terrorist that is an acquaintance of Obama's. There's some small part of me that thinks he will bring it up, but I think it a low likelihood. I'm voting no.

 

Farang

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Obama's response in the Gibson interview was pretty effective and I think if it is brought up it will backfire on McCain, because Obama will give that reasonable sounding explanation and then pivot to rip into McCain, all in a pre-written set of lines that they'll have after already seeing the Ayers attack coming.
 
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As long as Barack gets to lash back about the K5.
See maybe if he can wander aimlessly around stage trying to come up with an answer for that. I think if the gloves do come off, the repubs will sorely regret it. Palin may be a pitbull, but most pitbulls have infinitely more common sense, and Biden would shred her.
 

fskimospy

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If the state of the race is the same then as it is today, he'll do it. I'd put money on it. He's getting desperate.
 

StageLeft

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I said yes but it's a crapshoot. McCain continues to get worse but I think Obama will have no problem responding to a known attack. It will not be a surprise and is easy to defend.
 

Dari

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Well, Obama has told him to "say it to my face." McCain's response was that he's a maverick and isn't afraid to say what he thinks. So I'm really hoping he goes that route.
 

aphex

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I think it would be stupid for him to at this point, as Barack would have had more than ample time to prepare a well crafted answer. I don't think either party would benefit from it being brought up, and would only be done to appease rabid McCain supports who are voting for him anyway.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: Farang
Obama's response in the Gibson interview was pretty effective and I think if it is brought up it will backfire on McCain, because Obama will give that reasonable sounding explanation and then pivot to rip into McCain, all in a pre-written set of lines that they'll have after already seeing the Ayers attack coming.

When did he go on Gibson's show?
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Farang
Obama's response in the Gibson interview was pretty effective and I think if it is brought up it will backfire on McCain, because Obama will give that reasonable sounding explanation and then pivot to rip into McCain, all in a pre-written set of lines that they'll have after already seeing the Ayers attack coming.

When did he go on Gibson's show?

Am I remembering the wrong interviewer? Pretty sure he just did a nationally televised interview on his campaign bus, thought it was Gibson.
 

jpeyton

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He will. Obama and Biden basically called him a pussy yesterday for not talking about Ayers to Obama's face at debate two.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Farang
Obama's response in the Gibson interview was pretty effective and I think if it is brought up it will backfire on McCain, because Obama will give that reasonable sounding explanation and then pivot to rip into McCain, all in a pre-written set of lines that they'll have after already seeing the Ayers attack coming.

When did he go on Gibson's show?

Am I remembering the wrong interviewer? Pretty sure he just did a nationally televised interview on his campaign bus, thought it was Gibson.

He probably gave the same answer he gave Stephonopolus during his debate with Hillary.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
He will. Obama and Biden basically called him a pussy yesterday for not talking about Ayers to Obama's face at debate two.
If so, is there any chance obama will mention palin's husband being in a secessionist party, or is that not their style? I think it's not their style but it is a bit of a trump card.
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: ayabe
No he won't, no balls.

He will. If he has the balls to stay with his fellow prisoner in the Hanoi hilton and face getting an asse kicking (which ultimately he got), he has the balls to say that Obama shouldn't associate with terrorists something which shows bad judgment.

 

chess9

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I'm giving him the benefit of some ability to learn from his campaign's stupidity, so I think he will take the high road. He's getting so much flak from moderate Republicans about these personal attacks he really should stop them. Milliken and Chafee come to mind.

-Robert
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: jpeyton
He will. Obama and Biden basically called him a pussy yesterday for not talking about Ayers to Obama's face at debate two.
If so, is there any chance obama will mention palin's husband being in a secessionist party, or is that not their style? I think it's not their style but it is a bit of a trump card.

The Obama campaign has a whole can of whoop-ass they could use in response to any Ayers or Wright garbage.
 

Arkaign

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no, there's no way he can do it. Everyone has heard Ayers/Wright ad nauseum. People want to know about the SOLUTIONS to the problems, not hear about old crap or irrelevant garbage.
 

Vic

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I voted no. But if he does, he's toast. The moderates and independents will ditch his filthy campaign once-and-for-all and Obama will win in a runaway landslide.
 

Madwand1

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The wheels are in motion, and have been for a long time. McCain has no choice but to bring it up now, and to bring it up strongly.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: ayabe
No he won't, no balls.

He will. If he has the balls to stay with his fellow prisoner in the Hanoi hilton and face getting an asse kicking (which ultimately he got), he has the balls to say that Obama shouldn't associate with terrorists something which shows bad judgment.

He won't.

Know why? Because he won't be speaking to his knuckledragging base, and will be pwned on national television in front of everyone, which includes the non-mouthbreathers among us.
 

m1ldslide1

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He won't bring it up, but it's not because he has too much integrity. It's because he'll get pwned in a major way both during and after the debate. Only the simpletons really find this stuff legitimate.
 

brencat

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Won't bring it up. The only issue that matters right now is the economy. Terrorism, Iraq, even gas prices as issues seem like they're on some distant planet relative to 3 mos ago.
 

Madwand1

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Originally posted by: Vic
if he does, he's toast. The moderates and independents will ditch his filthy campaign once-and-for-all and Obama will win in a runaway landslide.

Why wouldn't they have done so already? This isn't a Palin-raised issue. This is part of the strategy, vetted and approved by McCain.

The weak-minded, ill-informed, etc., for whom this strategy works will not be affected by additional subtleties -- they've already missed them. They will tune in however looking for blood, and if they don't see McCain even trying for that, won't be as energized come election day.

The majority isn't expected to be very smart, and for them this sort of mud-slinging and voting on appearances might work.

But if it doesn't, it'd be a very positive sign for the nation.