I still find it amusing the fact you cant seem to grasp the idea that I wasnt responding to the OP, but to somebody asking about democrats "asking" nader to remain off the ballot when that was clearly not the case. I have to ask what is your point? I offered no opinion on the OP and still dont offer one. You guys are like a brick wall.
I still find it amusing the fact you cant seem to grasp the idea that I wasnt responding to the OP, but to somebody asking about democrats "asking" nader to remain off the ballot when that was clearly not the case. I have to ask what is your point? I offered no opinion on the OP and still dont offer one. You guys are like a brick wall.
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Zing
Well shucks. I guess mccain should just go and decline public financing now.
And those pesky weekly debates Obama has been nagging him about.
Oh wait.........
shira
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I fully understand that your bias induced you to respond to a point tangential to this thread in order to attack Dems, without offering an opinion on McCain.
If I had responded to that tangential point, I think I'd have written something like, "Well, the Democrats DID in fact try to remove Nader from the ballot in several states (see links below), but since the Dems never promised not to do such things, this doesn't go to the issue of a lack of integrity on the part of the Democrats."
What's fascinating is that you've now been in this thread for several posts, and are talking all around the central point, yet you've "offered no opinion on the OP and still don't offer one." How come? Is it really so hard to find fault with those of your own political persuasion? Is it really that difficult to write the words, "McCain lied?"
I doubt that and quite frankly dont care. Because I didnt ask.
My posts in this thread are primarily responses to you two bozo the clowns.
In Genx's defense, he responded directly to a point that another poster made and did so with links to refute/clarify the statements made by said poster. He is perfectly within the realm of responding directly to someone and in no way made any reference to the OP which negates the charges of his evading any statements by/in the OP.
That said, my response to the OP is that this shit is getting out of hand. Both parties are trying to monopolize the ballots so that they can continue to strong arm third party candidates. They are afraid of the American people seeing that they have other, more viable choices that are looking out for the best interests of the citizens of this land and the rule of law instead of corporate and special interest groups that will only perpetuate the problems that we have and are experiencing at the hands of them.
That said, my response to the OP is that this shit is getting out of hand. Both parties are trying to monopolize the ballots so that they can continue to strong arm third party candidates. They are afraid of the American people seeing that they have other, more viable choices that are looking out for the best interests of the citizens of this land and the rule of law instead of corporate and special interest groups that will only perpetuate the problems that we have and are experiencing at the hands of them.
Yes, I like Jesus. I just don't pretend I am as politically pure as Him like you do. I get my hands dirty making the best of what is real. My kingdom isn't in the heavens or up in my head like yours is. It's down here on real earth.
Originally posted by: JD50
Zing
Definitely an excellent point.
The more people assume others won't act appropriately when they should the more people who see that as a reality will act inappropriately themselves. If you tell people that too many are using too many towels in a restroom people will use more but if you post that most people can use just one more will use just one. People are hell bent on being like others and if the presumption is that others are shit one will act like shit.
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And that someone had backed Obama's candidacy for the state house until they lost the primary for their congressional run.
I love it how you hacks will spin anything to support your heroes, and then accuse the other side of messiah worship. It's pathetic.
Actually, yes he did. 'No nation building,' remember?
I don't find the OP surprising at all.
CADsortaGUY
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I agree, it's pathetic you hacks will spin anything for your heros(messiah). I'm not a McCain fluffer and frankly could care less that the state party is doing what it doing except for the fact that I dislike it when ANYONE does it. The fact that a McCain supporter is doing so doesn't surprise me, just as it doesn't surprise me that Mr."change" has had the same thing done to opponents.
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I guess that argument would make sense to someone who thinks that breaking promises is the only act of malfeasance a President can make. Which means you think that lying is OK. And that incompetence is OK. And that ideological blindness is OK. Figures.
I provided all the information you require. It isnt my fault you are too stupid to understand it.
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Zing
If I have never made a promise not to murder my neighbor, does that then make it OK for me to do so? I mean, I never promised not to, so it must be OK in your eyes. Right?
Promise or no, the act itself remains odious.
ZV
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