Maybe we should attack Iran's Reactors
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Maybe we stop meddling in Israeli affairs and should let them do it. They are experts at precision bombings and could get away with it far easier than the US.
Stupid Idea.
We've already attacked one Muslim country under some pretty lousy conditions, we don't need another.
Unfortunately, while it is more or less understood what they want to do with the nuclear reactors, it is not necessarily illegal for them to create them, as their "official" purpose is civilian. The really big problems are that they want to create a heavy water reactor and they want to enrich their own uranium. It was originally supposed to be they'd get it from Russia and Russia would take the waste away, but Iran felt differently.
We've already attacked one Muslim country under some pretty lousy conditions, we don't need another.
Unfortunately, while it is more or less understood what they want to do with the nuclear reactors, it is not necessarily illegal for them to create them, as their "official" purpose is civilian. The really big problems are that they want to create a heavy water reactor and they want to enrich their own uranium. It was originally supposed to be they'd get it from Russia and Russia would take the waste away, but Iran felt differently.
All we need is a few cruise missles or an air strike to crack open their reactor or severly. We even have remote control drones with cameras we can send in the bomb in without even having to fly.
You guys misunderstand the situation. The Russians don't want the Iranians to have nuclear weapons either. Given that the situation in Chechnya hasn't improved in the past decade, a nuclear bomb in the hands of Islamic terrorists is almost as likely to wind up in Moscow, as it is in Washington. So if the Russian leadership is sane (a questionable assumption), then they will know when Iran is close to completing its project, and will alert US/Israel of it. Israel will then proceed to bomb it to smithereens, the international community will unanimously condemn this action, a few hundred European jews will be killed in antisemitic riots, and the world will go back to the status quo.
This is assuming, of course, that the Russian desire for personal safety and well being overpowers their incredible antisemitism. The latter is what worries me. There might be a good chance that they might want to gamble on it, just on an off chance that the bomb will wind up in Jerusalem or New York.
This is assuming, of course, that the Russian desire for personal safety and well being overpowers their incredible antisemitism. The latter is what worries me. There might be a good chance that they might want to gamble on it, just on an off chance that the bomb will wind up in Jerusalem or New York.
Discussing the FACT that the US's foreign policy has been and is being run by the hands of PNAC asshats is now trolling?
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But, fwiw, I wouldn't be surprised if Perle is still pushing for war. We all know Bolton (PNAC co-founder) is doing his best to muscle the UN into some security resolutions which can be used as cover for another invasion (although I have no idea where the money/troops/equipment will come from)
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But, fwiw, I wouldn't be surprised if Perle is still pushing for war. We all know Bolton (PNAC co-founder) is doing his best to muscle the UN into some security resolutions which can be used as cover for another invasion (although I have no idea where the money/troops/equipment will come from)
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I'd like someone to tell me how the Israelis will dothis, considering the fact that they have no aircraft which could make the trip.
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Originally posted by: Todd33
They have fleets of our F15s, they could always stop for fuel in Iraq
Its the only option. America will have to get this done to have the mission accomplished by conventional means (Not implying nuclear). Now, it *could* be done but the losses for the Israelis would be 100%.
That said, Israel has neevr lost a conflict, and they have an amazing ability to overcome what others view as impossible odds so I wouldnt rule them out completely.
Good idea. Lets cut off their foreign and military aid, while we're at it. Lots of big companies invest in Israel. Some are even based there. No need to send them extra money.
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The F15 has in-air refueling capability.
They could do the same thing that we did against Libya when our forces had to launch from England and were refused overflight over France.
Tankers refueling tankers that supported the attack aircraft.
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Which brings us back to America has to assist them by at least giving flight permissions through Iraq.
What about the Russians? Will they sit by while we bomb their charges? Maybe. Maybe not.
Also, I don't think it would be technically as easy as some here describe it. You think they just popped it out in the open with a big target on top saying "Aim Here"? I think not. It's probably a well hardened setup.
Also, I don't think it would be technically as easy as some here describe it. You think they just popped it out in the open with a big target on top saying "Aim Here"? I think not. It's probably a well hardened setup.
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We've sold the Israelis bunker busters. Plus, Isreal does have cruise missles which could make the trip to the target.
Dont rule them out. If the IAF thinks it needs to be done, they will get it done. Period. The problem is so much will they as how will they.
LMAO
The Israelis have tons of F-15s, and their pilots are far more experienced and able than even the best American pilots (fortunately for them, unfortunately for us). They've never lost a practice exercise in mock battles with U.S. airforce.
If there is an airforce in the world that can attack that reactor at will, it's the Israelis.
As far as their losses are concerned, Israel is a small country. Even a single nuclear detonation could kill a large percentage of the population and decimate the economy completely. They have nothing to lose. I think there'd be enough pilots willing to make the one-way trip if there was no way to come back.
That being said, they took out the Iraqi reactor without losing a single plane. What makes you think they can't do the same again?
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In case anyone has forgotten just how serious, determined and able to overcome the "impossible" the Isrealis are...
And to note...They were only 1 minute late from what they planned on. Not to shabby.
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If Isreal thinks Irans nuclear program needs some "help", its as good as gold they will get the job done.
And to note...They were only 1 minute late from what they planned on. Not to shabby.
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If Isreal thinks Irans nuclear program needs some "help", its as good as gold they will get the job done.
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Your overlooking the obvious, which would mean you just lost all your planes.
They cant make it there and back without refueling. And they cant do that without the support.
Key word: Back.
The reality is Israel has F-15I and F-16I aircraft that can at least hit most of Iran without having to refuel at all if they go over Iraq. They also have quite a large a substancial refueling aircraft force. With the right planning its distinctly possible they could go by sea around the Arabian Peninsula and then refuel on last time before getting really close to Iran and they launch their strike. They can then rejoin the refueling aircraft back on their trip to Israel.
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