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maybe hot, barton core 2500

If you have ever read and understood the rating process for cpus, you would want to go with retail. They are of a higher quality on a clock for clock comparison to OEM when it comes to cpus. I don't even want to begin writing the massive information on this subject so just poke around. I had used OEMs before but now I go with Retail (which will work fine with the stock heatsink/fan even if not overclocked).
 
Originally posted by: ChrisOjeda
If you have ever read and understood the rating process for cpus, you would want to go with retail. They are of a higher quality on a clock for clock comparison to OEM when it comes to cpus. I don't even want to begin writing the massive information on this subject so just poke around. I had used OEMs before but now I go with Retail (which will work fine with the stock heatsink/fan even if not overclocked).
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The past 15 OEM CPUs I've used have been just fine 😀

 
Uhhh... are you serious? There is no difference between an OEM and retail CPU except the warranty and fan.
Unless one is more likely to come with a certain core that is better for overclocking or something. But better clock-for-clock performance? What are you talking about?
 
Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: ChrisOjeda
If you have ever read and understood the rating process for cpus, you would want to go with retail. They are of a higher quality on a clock for clock comparison to OEM when it comes to cpus. I don't even want to begin writing the massive information on this subject so just poke around. I had used OEMs before but now I go with Retail (which will work fine with the stock heatsink/fan even if not overclocked).
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The past 15 OEM CPUs I've used have been just fine 😀
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Retails carry a 3 year whereas OEM carry 1 year. If the price difference is around $10, I'd go with retail for the 2 extra years...
 
Originally posted by: kevin000
Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: ChrisOjeda
If you have ever read and understood the rating process for cpus, you would want to go with retail. They are of a higher quality on a clock for clock comparison to OEM when it comes to cpus. I don't even want to begin writing the massive information on this subject so just poke around. I had used OEMs before but now I go with Retail (which will work fine with the stock heatsink/fan even if not overclocked).
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The past 15 OEM CPUs I've used have been just fine 😀
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Retails carry a 3 year whereas OEM carry 1 year. If the price difference is around $10, I'd go with retail for the 2 extra years...
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For your average Joe, and at this time period, yes. But also, several months ago, the premium for retail over oem was about $20-$25, when I could get a 1-year warranty for an extra $6. So the math on just 10 of those chips is, $15-20$ x 10 = $150 - $200 saved. And just as recently as this Xmas, the premium for a retail 2400+ vs. an OEM 2400+ w/ 1 year warranty was a good $25 also. Now, unless you're overclocking or upgrade every 6 months, there's really no reason not to get the extra 2 year warranty for another 8 bucks. 😀

Edit: BTW, here's a link for the 2500+ Retail: Retail $191.95

vs.

$180.95 for the 2500+ OEM.
 
actually some people in overclocking forums have speculated that retail cpu's are a bit better at oc'ing than oem cpus....
 
Originally posted by: funko
actually some people in overclocking forums have speculated that retail cpu's are a bit better at oc'ing than oem cpus....
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Hit or miss. Look at the OEM Week 48 XP 2100+ that have gotten past 2.4ghz on air cooling. Also, with OEM cpu's, usually you can ask the vendors about certain steppings and weeks, which is something you cannot do with Retail boxes (in AMDs case). Also, seeing as OEM chips are constantly being sold out and produced (at a higher rate then retail), you have a better chance of getting more recent steppings, as opposed to the retail boxes, where some people are still getting Tbred As.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: kevin000
Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: ChrisOjeda
If you have ever read and understood the rating process for cpus, you would want to go with retail. They are of a higher quality on a clock for clock comparison to OEM when it comes to cpus. I don't even want to begin writing the massive information on this subject so just poke around. I had used OEMs before but now I go with Retail (which will work fine with the stock heatsink/fan even if not overclocked).
Click to expand...

The past 15 OEM CPUs I've used have been just fine 😀
Click to expand...

Retails carry a 3 year whereas OEM carry 1 year. If the price difference is around $10, I'd go with retail for the 2 extra years...
Click to expand...

For your average Joe, and at this time period, yes. But also, several months ago, the premium for retail over oem was about $20-$25, when I could get a 1-year warranty for an extra $6. So the math on just 10 of those chips is, $15-20$ x 10 = $150 - $200 saved. And just as recently as this Xmas, the premium for a retail 2400+ vs. an OEM 2400+ w/ 1 year warranty was a good $25 also. Now, unless you're overclocking or upgrade every 6 months, there's really no reason not to get the extra 2 year warranty for another 8 bucks. 😀

Edit: BTW, here's a link for the 2500+ Retail: Retail $191.95

vs.

$180.95 for the 2500+ OEM.
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Exactly, if its cost effective, then you should go with the retail. In this case, I would definately order a retail. You can sleep better at night knowing you're covered for 3 years, and it only cost $8 more. I don't know how well AMDs replacement plan is though. All I know is in my last computer, it seems everything crapped out after a year, so I'm trying to buy things with 3 year warrantys... 😉
 
Originally posted by: kevin000
Exactly, if its cost effective, then you should go with the retail. In this case, I would definately order a retail. You can sleep better at night knowing you're covered for 3 years, and it only cost $8 more. I don't know how well AMDs replacement plan is though. All I know is in my last computer, it seems everything crapped out after a year, so I'm trying to buy things with 3 year warrantys... 😉
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AMD has a very good RMA policy actually from what I've seen so far. A 2400+ recently died on my parents system that I bought Retail from Googlegear at the end of December. All I did was give AMD a call, read off my serial # on the fan, and within 15 minutes I was given directions to ship my processor back to AMD for a replacement. Granted, I'm too lazy to actually return it yet 😀 and theres 2' of snow out there, so I'll let you guys know how it went when I get around to it.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: kevin000
Exactly, if its cost effective, then you should go with the retail. In this case, I would definately order a retail. You can sleep better at night knowing you're covered for 3 years, and it only cost $8 more. I don't know how well AMDs replacement plan is though. All I know is in my last computer, it seems everything crapped out after a year, so I'm trying to buy things with 3 year warrantys... 😉
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AMD has a very good RMA policy actually from what I've seen so far. A 2400+ recently died on my parents system that I bought Retail from Googlegear at the end of December. All I did was give AMD a call, read off my serial # on the fan, and within 15 minutes I was given directions to ship my processor back to AMD for a replacement. Granted, I'm too lazy to actually return it yet 😀 and theres 2' of snow out there, so I'll let you guys know how it went when I get around to it.
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I don't have my fan any more. Still got the box though...
 
QuantiSpeed architecture operates at 1.83GHz
is this going to run much better then a Tbred at 2.0 (+2400)? Seems like the Barton so far isn't that impressive.

 
Originally posted by: rondeemc
QuantiSpeed architecture operates at 1.83GHz
is this going to run much better then a Thou at 1.92 (+2400)? Seems like the Barton so far isn't that impressive.
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It's not going to run that much better then a 2400+ considering its only rated at 2500+. In adding the extra 256k of cache, they also lowered the clock speeds to keep it on the same PR system as the Tbreds.

But, the overclocking potential this chip might have 😀

 
But, the overclocking potential this chip might have
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Thats exactly what I am wondering. I have read of several of the +2400 running a front side bus of 400. I wonder why Barton didn't come out of the chute running at that speed instead of the 333. Guess I will just be patient and wait for feedback
 
Originally posted by: ChrisOjeda
If you have ever read and understood the rating process for cpus, you would want to go with retail. They are of a higher quality on a clock for clock comparison to OEM when it comes to cpus. I don't even want to begin writing the massive information on this subject so just poke around. I had used OEMs before but now I go with Retail (which will work fine with the stock heatsink/fan even if not overclocked).
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I don't know wether to cry or laugh. 😀
 
Originally posted by: rondeemc
But, the overclocking potential this chip might have
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Thats exactly what I am wondering. I have read of several of the +2400 running a front side bus of 400. I wonder why Barton didn't come out of the chute running at that speed instead of the 333. Guess I will just be patient and wait for feedback
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Limitation of the NForce2 chipsets (as of right now). The Nforce2 chipset is definitely capabale of running 200mhz FSB. But it's basically hit or miss if your motherboard will run 200mhz FSB. Various batches of 8RDA+ and ASUS A7N8X motherboards have been know to run at 200mhz FSB, while other boards from different batches are only hitting 185mhz FSB. Who knows 😕

But boy am I gonna pick one of these up if they can at least hit 2.3ghz 😀
 
Originally posted by: rondeemc
But, the overclocking potential this chip might have
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Thats exactly what I am wondering. I have read of several of the +2400 running a front side bus of 400. I wonder why Barton didn't come out of the chute running at that speed instead of the 333. Guess I will just be patient and wait for feedback
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Consider the fact of How many Mobo's can actually do 200FSB and therein prolly lies the answer.
 
BigJ2078
I have the Asus board with Corsair 3500 C2 and I feel lucky 😀
Figure I will go to Asus an negotiate if I don't see the 400 FSB.

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