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loup garou

Lifer
Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: homestarmy
Wrong forum dumbass.


1) Ohhhh OFF TOPIC is getting filled with something other than WTF and OMFGBBQBWEJFGJDFGJDFJG YAGAYT, yeah better yell at them.
2) I hereby motion for a rule to be made that anyone who has, or is in the process of getting, a BA in Cinema Studies (or any other ridiculous major) cannot call someone a dumbass.
STFU n00b and take this obnoxious thread to the troll forum.

Let me guess, your under 6 foot and you have a small weiner, so post count obviously is really important.

There's a political forum Mr. 89 posts.

Thanks for proving my point.

Way to go stupid. I'm saying that you cutting him down for saying that the thread doesn't belong here is ridiculous because he's right - there's a political forum. That's what he was referring to.

Jesus. How do you look at yourself in the mirror when you wake up?


Wow, you get more ridiculous with each post. If you post WRONG FORUM and WTF and OMG and PICS and BAN and REPOST then you are a worthless person to this board. IF you don't like a thread, ignore it., it will fall to the bottom.

If I must explain how he proved my point, then wow.
I fail to see where you've contributed JACK SH1T to this thread. Hypocrite.
 

Jack Ryan

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: homestarmy
Wrong forum dumbass.


1) Ohhhh OFF TOPIC is getting filled with something other than WTF and OMFGBBQBWEJFGJDFGJDFJG YAGAYT, yeah better yell at them.
2) I hereby motion for a rule to be made that anyone who has, or is in the process of getting, a BA in Cinema Studies (or any other ridiculous major) cannot call someone a dumbass.
STFU n00b and take this obnoxious thread to the troll forum.

Let me guess, your under 6 foot and you have a small weiner, so post count obviously is really important.

There's a political forum Mr. 89 posts.

Thanks for proving my point.

Way to go stupid. I'm saying that you cutting him down for saying that the thread doesn't belong here is ridiculous because he's right - there's a political forum. That's what he was referring to.

Jesus. How do you look at yourself in the mirror when you wake up?


Wow, you get more ridiculous with each post. If you post WRONG FORUM and WTF and OMG and PICS and BAN and REPOST then you are a worthless person to this board. IF you don't like a thread, ignore it., it will fall to the bottom.

If I must explain how he proved my point, then wow.
I fail to see where you've contributed JACK SH1T to this thread. Hypocrite.

Yet again, you prove nothing. You waste my time.

Bye.
 

brigden

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Dec 22, 2002
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yukichigai said it best.

1.) North Korea is in the middle of a zone currently in a danergous power struggle. Keeping the current regime in power adds stability. Nobody wants to piss off the Chinese.

2.) North Korea will fight back on a large scale. The current US administration is not prepared to accept the damage a full-scale conflict would bring.

3.) The current US administration has little to gain from attacking North Korea. Kim Jong ll perhaps poses a greater risk to Americans than Suddam did, but the powers that be reap little reward from his removal. (Read: The US invasion of Iraq had more to do with money than security. You'd need to be fully retarded to think otherwise.)
 

esun

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Nov 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Two reasons.

One: attacking North Korea would create a power vacuum. Any history buffs know that this was one of the main causes of World War I. The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand (wasn't that his name?) created a "power vacuum"; the power weilded by the Archduke was holding several countries at bay from each other country. With the Archduke gone there was no block stopping a war from breaking out, and added to the internal struggle for power the whole thing snowballed into World War I

As it is North Korea is indeed a nutso whackjob country headed by an even more nutso whackjob leader. But it's also a buffer zone between several countries and a piece of land that will be hotly contested. True, the US could just step in and say, "it's ours, we attacked, we get it," but that would invoke the ire of more powerful nations. Leaving it to sort out its own government would also leave it vulnerable to covert coup attempts by foreign powers. And with the power of the country weakened the rest of the surrounding countries would see it as an opportunity to settle old/new scores.

Two: to put it bluntly, North Korea can fight back. Sure, it won't do much good 'cause we'll more than likely nuke 'em 'till they glow, but Kim Jong Il is just crazy enough to fire every warhead he has at a major US city before the sand turns to glass.


I'm not saying you're wrong, since I'm not a history person anyway, but after watching the history channel regarding the start of WWI, I was under the impressions that Austria blamed the assassination on Serbia (since the weapons the assassin used was provided by Serbia) which sparked off the Austria-Germany alliance versus the Serbia-Russia (and consequently France-Britain) alliance.
 

amcdonald

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Feb 4, 2003
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Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Originally posted by: homestarmy
Wrong forum dumbass.


1) Ohhhh OFF TOPIC is getting filled with something other than WTF and OMFGBBQBWEJFGJDFGJDFJG YAGAYT, yeah better yell at them.
2) I hereby motion for a rule to be made that anyone who has, or is in the process of getting, a BA in Cinema Studies (or any other ridiculous major) cannot call someone a dumbass.
STFU n00b and take this obnoxious thread to the troll forum.

Let me guess, your under 6 foot and you have a small weiner, so post count obviously is really important.

There's a political forum Mr. 89 posts.

Thanks for proving my point.

Way to go stupid. I'm saying that you cutting him down for saying that the thread doesn't belong here is ridiculous because he's right - there's a political forum. That's what he was referring to.

Jesus. How do you look at yourself in the mirror when you wake up?


Wow, you get more ridiculous with each post. If you post WRONG FORUM and WTF and OMG and PICS and BAN and REPOST then you are a worthless person to this board. IF you don't like a thread, ignore it., it will fall to the bottom.

If I must explain how he proved my point, then wow.
I fail to see where you've contributed JACK SH1T to this thread. Hypocrite.

Yet again, you prove nothing. You waste my time.

Bye.

Note to self...
KMDupont64 is a insecure douchebag who lacks basic reasoning skills.
Never listen to anything he says.
ever.
:D
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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What a suprise, a thread about politics devolved into a flamefest. Keep it in P&N, where the rest of the nutballs can gang-flame eachother.
 

yukichigai

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Apr 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: esun
I'm not saying you're wrong, since I'm not a history person anyway, but after watching the history channel regarding the start of WWI, I was under the impressions that Austria blamed the assassination on Serbia (since the weapons the assassin used was provided by Serbia) which sparked off the Austria-Germany alliance versus the Serbia-Russia (and consequently France-Britain) alliance.
That contributed, true, but with the country in inner turmoil other countries viewed it as an opportunity to make their move when what used to be the stopgap country was weakened. Austria's reaction was not exactly a symptom of the power vacuum but merely a separate effect of the assassination which spurred the effects of the power vacuum along, e.g. the Serbia-Russia and Austria-Germany alliances. These countries had been holding back from the brink of war for years; the removal of a powerful man like the Archduke was enough to create a sufficient force capable of bringing these countries to the point of war.
 

Peetoeng

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Dec 21, 2000
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Perhaps either it is because,

1. Sadaam rhymes with JDAM, or
2. More difficult logistically speaking to attack Iran or NK (remember US has bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait which border Iraq), or
3. Inteligence predicted that less problem from iraqis (but proved rather problematic; if insurgency in iraq is this bad, imagine that in Iran or North Korea).

If either option satisfies you, use your right to vote this November.



Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Maybe I am just not being reasonable or what ? Why do we attack Iraq for questionable nuclear weapons, but when N. Korea & Iran both admit to having them we do nothing ? Why do say how awful Iraq was (human rights) when we turn a blind eye towards Darfur & and Saudi Arabia's perfect record ?

Maybe I'm just too simple and don't understand all these complex things.