Maxtor ATA 150 SATA, 10,000 RPM

[Pariah]

I don't own any, and if I did the only thing I would use them for are door stops. The drives are very slow by today's standards. From Storage Review:

"Though not nearly as objectionable as that of the Cheetah's, the drive emits a high-pitched whine that may be noticed in quieter computing environments. The Barracuda was quite loud when seeking from track-to-track, sharing with the Cheetah the "blender full of rocks" phenomenon. Just as the mechanical improvements close the gap between the two in performance, the loud actuator brings the two noise levels closer. The Barracuda 9LP is still quieter than the Cheetah 4LP, but not by much."

Loud and slow = don't bother.

 

[SpideyCU]

Demon, re: that Hypermicro deal, it's still going on. I ordered from them not 2 days ago. I'm not sure how long they plan on continuing with the deal, but as of right now, it's still on.

 

[Mrburns2007]

This scsi drive anygood ?


Maxtor Atlas 10K III "Orca", 18.4 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 RPM, 4.5 ms seek, 8 MB cache, A/V Rated, 3.5" LP, 68 pin interface, 5-year warranty. $109.00
2 lb

$109 seems cheap

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

solid state storage (flash) is much slower than any current hds

That's not exactly true. The fastest solid state drive I've seen can push 50mb/sec which is slower than drives but it's seek time would be measured in microseconds. And flash can easily be scaled higher.

Flash has been scaled higher. Bitmicro has some very good-looking flash disk products, but I've never found any place that sells them, and even if an individual could purchase one, I'm sure it would be terribly expensive.

 

[McCarthy]

Damnit, I want more 5400rpm drives, not 10000. Yeah, also had an IBM go ***s up on me, but no big deal since all data should be backed up 8 times a day and yada yada excuses people use to say it's a perfectly acceptable price of 'progress' to give up reliability in exchange for speed. And give up quiet. And make more noise. The Maxtor liquid bearing in the new Dell 4550 picked up is by far the loudest thing about it already (yes, accoustic managment on), another 2800 rpm isn't going to help.

But to a hell of a lot of people the ideal computer is some 200*C box of components putting out a constant 170db whine and sucking so much air through it grinds up smell pets (and cooks them on the way through). Look at the posts about fans, there's always someone jumping in to say "screw noise, I love my Delta, rah rah rah!" Or "but your CPU will overheat if it goes over 30*!!!!! GET 12 new fans!!!!"

Guess those people buy harddrives too.

--Mc

 

[KingShip]

Call Maxtor at (800) 262-9867 and talk to any of the techs there, and they will confirm, about the SATA 150 high performance drives, with 10K spin speeds.

Oh, if you have a heat issues with HDD's get a good fan, or two, they sell them for HDD's at Newegg.com

 

[Daovonnaex]

Originally posted by: KingShip
Call Maxtor at (800) 262-9867 and talk to any of the techs there, and they will confirm, about the SATA 150 high performance drives, with 10K spin speeds.

Oh, if you have a heat issues with HDD's get a good fan, or two, they sell them for HDD's at Newegg.com

Thus increasing the total aggregate noise...

It is now confirmed that IBM will be releasing a SATA 150 15k drive with 16MB of cache. I will not reveal any credentials that I have or a valid source.

In real news, the IBM Deskstar 180GXP is now available, and 8MB cache models will be available soon.

 

[Pariah]

Newegg has the 8MB 180GXP's in stock.

"Damnit, I want more 5400rpm drives, not 10000. Yeah, also had an IBM go ***s up on me, but no big deal since all data should be backed up 8 times a day and yada yada excuses people use to say it's a perfectly acceptable price of 'progress' to give up reliability in exchange for speed. And give up quiet. And make more noise. The Maxtor liquid bearing in the new Dell 4550 picked up is by far the loudest thing about it already (yes, accoustic managment on), another 2800 rpm isn't going to help."

You must be new to computers if you think today's hard drives are loud. Current high RPM drives are far far quieter than 4200RPM drives of years past. With each generation drives get faster quieter and cooler. Lower RPM's are not a guarantee for quieter drives. What's the quietest drive currently available? The 7200RPM Barracuda V. Check out Storage Review's noise charts, the Cheetah 15k.3 is quieter at idle than the 5400 RPM Maxtor D540X. Sure the seeks are louder, but that can easily be remedied by slowing the heads down. Of course they're not going to do that because that defeats the purpose of buying a drive like that in the first place, but the fact remains it is possible today to make a 15k drive that is quieter than a recent 5400RPM drive.

"Call Maxtor at (800) 262-9867 and talk to any of the techs there, and they will confirm, about the SATA 150 high performance drives, with 10K spin speeds."

Why would a Maxtor employed tech confirm the existence of a product that is unannounced? Isn't the the policy of almost every company to not talk about unannounced products? You'd have to be an idiot to think all of these companies aren't working on such a product, but they aren't going to tell anyone until they have a press release.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

solid state storage (flash) is much slower than any current hds

That's not exactly true. The fastest solid state drive I've seen can push 50mb/sec which is slower than drives but it's seek time would be measured in microseconds. And flash can easily be scaled higher.

I call BS on that. Current HD's might be connected to ATA133 interfaces, but that does not mean that their transfer-rate is even close to 133megs/sec. In reality, the fastest drives get something like 40-50megs/second, and that is slower than your solid-state example.

In other news: here's a review of 2gig RAMdrive.

Access-time: 0.1ms
transfer-rate: 71.1megs/sec

 

[Pariah]

"In reality, the fastest drives get something like 40-50megs/second, and that is slower than your solid-state example."

The newest Maxtor and WD drives top out around 57MB/s. SCSI has 3 drives in the 70MB/s range, with the highest at 77MB/s.

"In other news: here's a review of 2gig RAMdrive."

That's $3000 for a drive that isn't big enough for my OS and applications.

Nevermind, I wouldn't want to put my OS and apps on it anyway as it requires an external power source to maintain data integrity. For $3000 I'd like some sort of onboard battery or a UPS so I don't lose my data every time the power goes out or I need to move my computer.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Pariah
"In reality, the fastest drives get something like 40-50megs/second, and that is slower than your solid-state example."

The newest Maxtor and WD drives top out around 57MB/s. SCSI has 3 drives in the 70MB/s range, with the highest at 77MB/s.

We were talking about IDE so I'll disregard the SCSI-benchmarks. But do you have links to the IDE-benchmarks?

"In other news: here's a review of 2gig RAMdrive."

That's $3000 for a drive that isn't big enough for my OS and applications.

I don't think it's mean as a generic HD.

Nevermind, I wouldn't want to put my OS and apps on it anyway as it requires an external power source to maintain data integrity. For $3000 I'd like some sort of onboard battery or a UPS so I don't lose my data every time the power goes out or I need to move my computer.

Like I said, that's a RAMdrive, not really a solid-state drive (in my book, solid-state drives don't need external power-source to keep the data). I just posted that link 'cause it's somehwat relevant to the subject at hand and provides a nice contrast when it comes to speed.

 

[Pariah]

We were talking about IDE so I'll disregard the SCSI-benchmarks. But do you have links to the IDE-benchmarks?

Benchmarks for the newest WD JB line can be found at THG and SR. I haven't seen any reviews for the Maxtor Maxline Plus II drives, but I own one and it does hit that number. It actually tops 60MB/s in HDtach, but Winbench says 57.xMB/s and I trust Winbench more than HDTach.

I don't think it's mean as a generic HD.

To use your own words, we're talking about general purpose (generic) drives here, so this one need not apply.