Thats a strange comment to make, the difference between 0.15 and 0.13 is around 15% so we can expect the next generation to reach how fast 250mhz perhaps 275 max, and even if it manages a 25% core speed would it still need the extra bandwidth, i dont think so. I said about a month ago I suspected the card would be limited by the core speed and so it seems. Makes you wonder though how on earth the r300 / nv30 are going to run so fast, especially as the r300 is due to be on 0.15 still.
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Thats a strange comment to make, the difference between 0.15 and 0.13 is around 15% so we can expect the next generation to reach how fast 250mhz perhaps 275 max, and even if it manages a 25% core speed would it still need the extra bandwidth, i dont think so. I said about a month ago I suspected the card would be limited by the core speed and so it seems. Makes you wonder though how on earth the r300 / nv30 are going to run so fast, especially as the r300 is due to be on 0.15 still.
randomlinh
Lifer
ugh, i'm fairly disappointed. I mean, the 2d quality may be top notch, but at the price, i would hardly say it's worth it over something like a g400 if you're concerned about 2d. they need to drop the price to stay competitive. triple head is a really nice feature, but running three crts is space consuming and heat generating 😛
the real key here is can they release drivers in a timely manner to improve on performance before it's too late? i would think they would put a lot of effort into this if they really wanted to take a bite out of nvidia. regardless, i'm still waiting to a closer doom3 release time before upgrading video...
the real key here is can they release drivers in a timely manner to improve on performance before it's too late? i would think they would put a lot of effort into this if they really wanted to take a bite out of nvidia. regardless, i'm still waiting to a closer doom3 release time before upgrading video...
Electric Amish
Elite Member
Matrox had unified drivers way before Nvidia ever did.
amish
So they are using the same drivers they used on the G200, to G550?..
Shouldnt the benchmarks be close to maxing out the card? Seeing as most of the new features that would require new driver code arent in quake3 based games, or some DirectX games..
Either the card just isnt as fast as ATI/nVidia chips at the silicon level (design, not clock speed), or their drivers just arent top notch. (Or, they have new drivers for this chip)
Shouldnt the benchmarks be close to maxing out the card? Seeing as most of the new features that would require new driver code arent in quake3 based games, or some DirectX games..
Either the card just isnt as fast as ATI/nVidia chips at the silicon level (design, not clock speed), or their drivers just arent top notch. (Or, they have new drivers for this chip)
Electric Amish
Elite Member
The Parhelia drivers are completely new and I'm sure they haven't been bundled into the Unified yet.
amish
Electric Amish
Elite Member
Yeah, because the GF4 wasn't completely and totally new hardware. All they had to do was tack-on a few things to the old drivers.
amish
Hence my point. ATI and Matrox always come out with very different silicon that requires new software.. nVidias progressive system.. (cant think of the proper term) is much more efficient.. of course there will be a ceiling sometime, but if they can keep adding, and improving this current core, rock on.
Coding new drivers for every chip you make every year or two is just too much wasted work. (IMHO)
Post 2001
Coding new drivers for every chip you make every year or two is just too much wasted work. (IMHO)
Post 2001
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