Matrix Revolutions tops box office, but down 45% from Reloaded's first weekend release

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Sorry, but that makes the 'trilogy' worse. I didn't care about the people of Zion - the main story emphasis should have been on the main characters from the entire trilogy. Have some emphasis on them, but don't completely ignore the main characters.

Of course people are complaining that Reloaded wasn't enough like The Matrix - b/c the first one was 10x better. And of course people will complain that Revolutions wasn't enough like Reloaded - b/c Reloaded was 10x better. Now only if they were all of the same quality as the first Matrix...

It's too bad that every single installment of this franchise is worse than the previous one.

please let me extend my deepest apologies to you.


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Yeah, I guess the truth hurts.

you're mistaken. i loved the movie, and nothing anybody can say will change that for me, nothing. realize that you're statements are a presumption of fact, when in reality someone's taste for movies is purely based on opinion. therefore, there is no real truth regarding whether this movie is good or bad - there is only opinion. and my opinion is that the triology was amazing, and that revolutions concluded it perfectly - in fact i've seen it three times already and i plan to see it again in imax. it's just unfortunate that you feel so cheated out of the sequels to the matrix. the matrix trilogy was a masterpiece, and i'm truly sorry you cannot appreciate it. now, before you come back here and flame me, realize that my comments are sincere. i'm not saying that you're intellectually incapable of understanding the movie - i'm not talking about comprehension here, i'm speaking purely of appreciation. there are so many things i cannot appreciate. to stay on the topic of movies, consider kill bill. some people thought it to be the best movie of the year, for me it was just a blip on the radar. but the way people talk up this movie, i really do wish that i could see things in a different light. unfortunately my limited experience will not allow me to appreciate this movie. the matrix movies were amazing in their own right, it's just unfortunate that you couldn't see it. that is all.


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Don't feel that you are alone. polls show, people Liked it more than people disliked it almost at a 2:1 ratio.

haters are just noisier i guess.

 

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Don't feel that you are alone. polls show, people Liked it more than people disliked it almost at a 2:1 ratio.

haters are just noisier i guess.

Which polls? Certainly not those on rottentomatoes, where the ratio was the exact opposite of what you say - 34% liked it, 66% did not!

 

[Vic]

Both Reloaded and Revolutions were decent movies in their own right. Unfortunately, compared to the original, that's not good enough. From the standpoint of the trilogy, the major weakness of the 2nd and 3rd movies is that they completely failed to realize the vision of the original.

Think of it from this perspective: if LOTR had ended with only Saruman defeated but not Sauron, would the epic have been as great? Of course not, the let-down would have been tremendous. Such is Revolutions.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Don't feel that you are alone. polls show, people Liked it more than people disliked it almost at a 2:1 ratio.

haters are just noisier i guess.

Which polls? Certainly not those on rottentomatoes, where the ratio was the exact opposite of what you say - 34% liked it, 66% did not!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1177963&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=


How about the Official ATOT poll?

 

[PlatinumGold]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242653/ratings

imdb for another.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: Vic
Both Reloaded and Revolutions were decent movies in their own right. Unfortunately, compared to the original, that's not good enough. From the standpoint of the trilogy, the major weakness of the 2nd and 3rd movies is that they completely failed to realize the vision of the original.

Think of it from this perspective: if LOTR had ended with only Saruman defeated but not Sauron, would the epic have been as great? Of course not, the let-down would have been tremendous. Such is Revolutions.

i thought that this was one of the movie's strengths - from BunLengthHotDog: reloaded took the principles of matrix 1 and turned them upside down. getting out of the matrix, or even its existence being destroyed now means NOTHING. reloaded showed just how calculated the machines/AI actually are. the one is something they know will exist, and are completely prepared for. in fact the machines have cooked up this "prophecy" of the one that will end the war as an element of control. matrix 1 was all about getting people disconnected, but reloaded quickly showed that this no longer mattered...that the choice to leave the matrix was an illusion, since the machines would simply wipe out zion like they had done previously. choice now has become the central element in the movies for humans, they need choice to mean something. After the conclusion of revolutions, humans now have choice, that is no longer illusion...they decide what they want to do (stay in the Matrix or come out and help rebuild the real world). there is no longer an impending destruction of zion to worry about. humanity IS afterall FREE, they will now have the ability to choose whether or not to stay in the matrix or leave...choice = true freedom.


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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Don't feel that you are alone. polls show, people Liked it more than people disliked it almost at a 2:1 ratio.

haters are just noisier i guess.

Which polls? Certainly not those on rottentomatoes, where the ratio was the exact opposite of what you say - 34% liked it, 66% did not!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1177963&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=


How about the Official ATOT poll?

I can't lend too much credence to the results. The reason is that the movie has been out such a short time that by definition those who are greater fans of the series would see it. Although the disapointment could embitter some there is also the fact that blinded fanboys (the kind who see a movie right away) will like it regardless, so I prefer to put weight on the informative hatred of the movie from rotten tomatoes 🙂

 

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242653/ratings

imdb for another.

It got an OK rating, but still almost 2/10 less than the original matrix and a point or so less than reloaded...

 

[skace]

I think Matrix1 was the best because of the actual scenes. The scenes were just powerful and blended music extremely well into setting the atmosphere. All the way up until the end where he hangs up the phone and Rage Against the Machine starts playing. I'm a big believer in how music sets the atmosphere and how camera angles and the like can make a scene more powerful. It is this acute attention to detail in Matrix1 that made it so popular imo.

I havn't seen Matrix3 yet but I will eventually.

 

[0roo0roo]

AP?s slightly nutty headline for the weekend box office was ?Matrix Sequel Opening Off 45 Percent.? Is it a coincidence or intentionally negative spin when that 45 percent mark comes from the 3-day total when the 5-day total is actually off only 37 percent? Or was the AP just trying to counter the hype from the all-time record $204 million five day worldwide total? (?Distributor Warner Bros. preferred to focus on the worldwide results for Revolutions.? Cute.) I would venture to suggest that the bottom line here is that Dave Germain doesn?t like the film and that his reporting curtains match his critical carpet. But is that what the job is?[i/]http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/2003_thb/031110_mon.html

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Like I said, I've not seen it, so I can't hate it right now. But my dislike for reloaded put me in the minority. Few people polled on anandtech thought that reloaded was up to par with the first matrix, but most were not too disapointed, and I was quite disapointed. However, with revolutions it's getting a LOT of bad reviews. Rotten tomatoes gave Matrix in the 80s and reloaded in the 70s. It gives revolutions in the 30s. The biggest movie fanboy I know (this guy likes anything he sees it seems like) even found that revolutions was "shi**y". Reloaded disapointed but few would have called it crap, but with revolutions you'll find many who state that opinion.

Believe it or not I'm going to go from loving Matrix 1 in a huge way to probably not seeing revolutions until it's on DVD and even then likely not rushing to rent it. At least LOTR is living up to what it should.

Don't forget that even IMDB rates Matrix in the 8's, Reloaded in the 7's and Revolutions will probably be in the 6's somewhere.

 

[RabidMongoose]

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Of course it's an opinion. Just like it's your opinion that 'the matrix movies were amazing in their own right'...to me, Revolutions wasn't 'amazing in its own right'. It's unfortunate that you have been deceived into liking the last movie as if you have been brainwashed. I am genuinely sorry for you.

ugh, oh well. at least i tried.....


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