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Matrix Fans! Watch "Ghost in the shell" as the idea of Matrix came from it.

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I'm almost done dling the Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex. there's 14 parts so far and i need like 3. I'll watch it all when i get it dl'ed completely.
But after work today i will be popping in the Ghost in the Shell tape.
 

kh3443

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i saw much more than just a naked anime woman. still didn't care for the movie.

Yep, he just saw a naked anime woman running around killing people.
 

MazerRackham

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I was wondering if anyone was going to mention William Gibson.
So does that mean you agree with my statement? ;)

In "Neoromancer", the computer/neural network that Gibson created is even called "the matrix."

And this is was written in 1984 people! 1984!!!

I rest my case.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
If you guys want to learn where a lot of The Matrix comes from, you need to read "Neuromancer" by William Gibson. Published in 1984 (yes, 1984), it's to this day the best sci-fi novel I have EVER read. Without question.

Neuromancer may have been great when it was written, but when I read it last year, it was terrible. The writing made no sense at times, you were expected to figure too much stuff out for yourself. Seeing as it was written pre-internet, and I read it post-internet, my knowledge may have interfered with the story, but seriously, I'd never read that book again.
 

RudeBoie

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I don't think a lot of the Matrix came from any one source. They've even said they've had a LOT of influences over literture, movies, anime, comic books, etc.

So while they may have mentioned specific things, like someone said Ghost in the Shell, I don't watch Ghost thinking, hey, Matrix is a live action remake of this.

Borrowed ideas (or getting inspiration from) is nothing new anywhere.........Star Wars anyone?

I read Neuromancer last year, and I didn't like it too much either.
 

dugweb

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ive watched ghost in the shell... the matrix is loosley based on that movie at best... it just seems like they took some ideas from it... like there is a scene in a city fruit market, and a guy shoots a gun and the bullet shoots through a bunch of watermelons, stuff like that.

edit: actually, it was a long time ago when i watched it and my friend was fast forwarding and moving it back really pissing me off (i never watch movies with him anymore) so take my oppinion with a grain of salt, lol
 

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if you want to watch the movie ghost in the shell you have to read the book to fully understand the movie. if not you can get bored real quick. i like movies where they are pretty good about devoluping the story as you go along like akira, ninja scroll, vampire hunter d (bloodlust not the first one)
berger034
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I was wondering if anyone was going to mention William Gibson.
So does that mean you agree with my statement? ;)

In "Neoromancer", the computer/neural network that Gibson created is even called "the matrix."

And this is was written in 1984 people! 1984!!!

I rest my case.


you can go back even farther if you want. the idea of humans being enslaved by machines is by no means new. wut about fritz lang's metropolis produced in 1927??!?!

the novelty in the matrix was how they developed the plot. alot of people regard the matrix soley as an action movie, but a great deal of the movie is used to set up the plot and storyline. i haven't seen the other movies, but from my understanding, the type of "enslaving" being done by the machines is different in purpose and method in the matrix than in the other films you guys are mentioning. also, the extent to which the used special effects only supported and enhanced the main storyline.

it's easy to lose sight of this if you focus on just the action and special effects.
 

0roo0roo

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perhaps it was part of the inspiration, but the anime was overrated:p some nice animation, tad screwed up story.
 

Vegito

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Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: forcesho
i did like ghost in the shell, was there other anime like that ? i been searching.. thanks.

You might try to get a hold on Cyber City Oedo 808. It's a 3 episodes only anime, but it's very good and also very hard to find.

cool, netflix had it, its in my queue