As the directors admitted, the main idea, and concept of the movie came from the Japanese animation "Ghost in the shell". If you liked Matrix, then you got to watch this one, too.
Matrix Fans! Watch "Ghost in the shell" as the idea of Matrix came from it.
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The Matrix is so much better. Better effects, better concept development, better structure, better flow, and lots and lots of guns.
Than Dark City? Well, in all honesty, Dark City had the fraction of the money Matrix had. As to the guns... Matrix is an action-flick, Dark City is not. I think Dark City is an awesome movie.
Yeah, people's ignorance is surprising sometimes ...
Was hard to believe that many found the concept presented in The Matrix fresh and original.
BTW, GITH still looks and sounds great after ten years.
I think you're talking the book by a Chinese philosopher(BC 365 - 293). I only know his name, and the name of the book only in my language which is different in English. Anyway, one of the line from the book was quoted in the movie. It's the line about the butterfly, and the dream. That theory has been widely used in so-called cyberpunk works, especially in Japanese animations.
Here's the very brief, brief, and brief timeline of this genre.
In BC 365, This Chinese philosopher came out with the idea of "the world we live in", "what's real?" "Who am I"...etc.
In 1959, SF writer Phillp K. Dick came out with "Time Out of Joint" which started(well, not really.) this specific cyperpunk genre.
In 60s, Japanese Animation started to focus on this cyberpunk genre.
In 1982, "Blade runner" developed this cyberpunk genre further.
In 1995, "Ghost in the shell (based on the comic book by Masamune. The animation only took 3 parts of the whole comic book) came out .
Then as we all know, Matrix came out, heavily based on the "Ghost in the shell".
Oh, I forgot to mention "Total recall" which could've been a killer SF movie, if the director didn't screwed it all up.
If any of you have been ablel to watch the currently running "Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex" TV animation (in Japan), GitS is once again taking cyberpunk to the next level...
It attempts to address many of the possible consequences of a future of networks and cyber-technology... too bad the Matrix sequels will not deal with some of those issues it seems. It's more about the action and a more standard plot rather than dealing with soceital, social, political, economic, etcetc issues. The production values on the TV series is quite high, running into the multi-millions so the animation is awesome.
There are fansubs out there for it on Usenet and IRC as well as bittorrent and other P2Ps.
It attempts to address many of the possible consequences of a future of networks and cyber-technology... too bad the Matrix sequels will not deal with some of those issues it seems. It's more about the action and a more standard plot rather than dealing with soceital, social, political, economic, etcetc issues. The production values on the TV series is quite high, running into the multi-millions so the animation is awesome.
There are fansubs out there for it on Usenet and IRC as well as bittorrent and other P2Ps.
Youre probably thinking of the taoist philosopher, chuang tzu. He was the one with the "Am I a butterfy dreaming I'm a man, or am I a man dreaming I'm a butterfly?" thing.
Of course the matrix pulls a lot from many many other facets of philosophy including zen buddhism, christianity, cartesian dualism, kant, etc...
Of course the matrix pulls a lot from many many other facets of philosophy including zen buddhism, christianity, cartesian dualism, kant, etc...
People would see the same movie, but some people only see "naked anime woman running around killing people" while the others see "soceital, social, political, economic, etcetc issues of the future networks and cyber-technology".
hdeck,
I wish you could see more than just a naked anime woman running around killing people.
The Ghost In The Shell anime sucks, compared to the manga. Skip the anime, at least until you read the manga.
The Matrix was mostly inspired by this book "Simulacres et simulation" from Jean Baudrillard. Yes, he is french before you ask.
I fell asleep from boredom. I have no idea why though, I might try it again. (talking about ghost in the shell series)
If you guys want to learn where a lot of The Matrix comes from, you need to read "Neuromancer" by William Gibson. Published in 1984 (yes, 1984), it's to this day the best sci-fi novel I have EVER read. Without question.
what about the 13th floor?? didn't this movie come out before the Matrix? Oh wait it cme out the same year, it was the thinking version, made by the group that did ID4 and Stargate.
You might try to get a hold on Cyber City Oedo 808. It's a 3 episodes only anime, but it's very good and also very hard to find.
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