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mindless1

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^ You have that backwards, especially the degenerate part as it applies to making that post in this topic, merely because you don't agree.
 

pete6032

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What a way to achieve in the world, make everything group-think...

Since I left college I have never been asked to solve a problem on my own and told I cannot seek help from someone else. I have also never been given a test in the real world, other than a driver's license exam when I moved states. In my career I have always had coworkers or the internet to consult for help or to bounce ideas off of people. It's called working in teams. That's how to world works. There is nothing wrong with making our classrooms work that way too.
 
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MrSquished

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He's like the other guy that thinks women can't be fulfilled unless they make babies. This guy just thinks females can't make rational points.

Conservatives are just disgusting pigs. This is not new info.
 
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MrSquished

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This professor at Boise State U has claimed women should not be recruited into engineering, law, medical fields, etc, and wants to emphasize American family life more. I wonder what party he is in?

 

SmCaudata

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This professor at Boise State U has claimed women should not be recruited into engineering, law, medical fields, etc, and wants to emphasize American family life more. I wonder what party he is in?

Wow what an ass. Hopefully it leads to loss of research dollars and class attendance for the guy so the U has a performance reason to boot him.
 

Paratus

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The wife and I are both engineers. She’s moved up into managing engineers and man the stories she tells me.

Potential new contractor comes in to pitch their offerings, greets and talks to every man in the room and ignores her. When directly asked questions by her he answered the question to one of the male engineers.

She of course had the say on whether they got the contract….

She’s interrupted by male colleagues consistently. Now she just continues talking over them to finish her point.

These are not things I’ve noticed in similar situations. It’s pretty obvious to me women encounter these situations more often than men do.
 

brandonbull

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Only a racist would find that ways to teach underprivileged kids is actually racist. I do think there should be gifted and talented programs of course, I was in one from 5th grade on, but along with the same investment in making education equitable so there is not so much disparity by race due to both systemic racism and those systems leading to poverty, leading to a lesser education and so on and so forth. A vicious cycle.

But a lot of conservatives deep down do feel blacks are an inferior race. They actually think that whites are the oppressed and blacks have the privilege. Therefore, they must feel the lesser performance of blacks can only be due to their race if they aren't the ones being oppressed, since it clearly is not from systemic issues.
From your posts, it is apparent that you were in gifted classes.
 

brandonbull

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He's like the other guy that thinks women can't be fulfilled unless they make babies. This guy just thinks females can't make rational points.

Conservatives are just disgusting pigs. This is not new info.
This is from a Democrat. The party that has no problem degrading women and forcing them to compete with newly made women.
 

nakedfrog

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She’s interrupted by male colleagues consistently. Now she just continues talking over them to finish her point.

These are not things I’ve noticed in similar situations. It’s pretty obvious to me women encounter these situations more often than men do.
Yes, I've seen this in meetings.
Oh, just a little casual transphobia.
 
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Only a racist would find that ways to teach underprivileged kids is actually racist. I do think there should be gifted and talented programs of course, I was in one from 5th grade on, but along with the same investment in making education equitable so there is not so much disparity by race due to both systemic racism and those systems leading to poverty, leading to a lesser education and so on and so forth. A vicious cycle.

But a lot of conservatives deep down do feel blacks are an inferior race. They actually think that whites are the oppressed and blacks have the privilege. Therefore, they must feel the lesser performance of blacks can only be due to their race if they aren't the ones being oppressed, since it clearly is not from systemic issues.

I was in the gifted program similarly and there's not a single goddamn thing that program did for me that it should not have been doing to help minority students who need that level of support far more. Straight up, I'm fucking embarrassed to have been in that program. It was a glorified safe space because I was a little smarter than the average moron. And it was chock full of other white dudes, only instead of it trying to help teach them some social skills (since often that was actually what they really needed because holy shit so many of those dudes were awkward AF), it coddled their bullshit "genius" teaching them that they're special when they really weren't. When I finally got out into the world, I met so many people, especially women and non-white people that if they'd gotten the opportunity that I did, would have flourished. Instead they had to do all the work I did (often more), while putting up with 100x more bullshit while I was coddled so much its a wonder I didn't end up with diaper rash.

I was in honors stuff. I had friends that were in AP stuff because they could afford to pay for the credits for them (which I couldn't and was required to do that shit at my school - don't feel sorry for me, I managed to talk my school into letting me do like 5 independent study classes, which if I hadn't been a white male would not have been something they would have ok'ed). All the honors shit I was in was just masturbatory ritual bullshit for people to constantly pat themselves on the back for being "better" than others, and the AP stuff was just getting easy ass college credits. I know that's not true all over (AP stuff being grueling at some places especially), but sorry I don't agree at all that shit is good. I learned 100x as much once I learned how to learn on my own. The ones doing AP were just doing it to get college credits, and were people that already had advantage as far as college goes. I had much more respect for the jock that busted his ass to do 4 years of math in basically 2 because he realized that he wanted to actually learn some shit but had kinda put himself in a hole by having taken the easiest shit he could his first 2 years. And now looking back how I used to be able to not study and ace high school and prior level tests, while the girls busted their asses studying to get the same, I don't take glee in that. I see the hard work they put in and realize that if I had put in 1/4 of that work, I'd have accomplished so much more than I have now. And then I see the girls that are like that, that still bust their ass like that, while taking care of a family, and doing 3 times the amount of stuff I do, and have to put up with asshole guys that become enraged when those women don't drop everything to run over and give them a blow job. Because that's ridiculously prevalent.

I now work in a tech field for a company doing something pretty interesting. They tried to be diverse, but its 75+% schlubby average nothing special white dudes who think they're amazing when they're lazy asses that often don't know what they're talking about and often say random fucked up racist/sexist shit (as long as you're another white dude) and then can't figure out why they didn't get the raises they felt they deserve just for doing the basic job. They've been hiring again and...yup bunch more nothing special schlubby white dudes 3/4 ratio. Its gets old. And then they wonder why I gravitate towards talking to the women and non-white dudes while they piss and moan about all the non-white dudes(and also the white dudes because they're insecure bitches) while talking about the women like they're prizes.

I have zero problem with them ditching gifted programs. Those teachers would be better put to use helping students that have been constantly repeatedly disenfranchised by our school systems, many of whom are actually really smart but didn't get opportunities to show it or because they weren't "smart" in the ways white people decided was the only real way to be smart, aren't allowed the opportunities to do unique shit that would probably open up new worlds of thought for them.

Fuck honors. Fuck AP. Fuck all that shit. If despite finally starting to see how the system has been setup to fuck non-white non-males still cannot see that with that shit, then I don't know what to say. Those arguments are the fucking exact same shit the white parents told themselves (how it wasn't about the harm to others but making sure the kids wouldn't be held back) when they started pushing for charter schools and justify bringing back segregation. Its horseshit and you need to recognize it as such.

My post isn't directed at you so much as the general bullshit argument (about honors and AP being great and thus it being wrong to try and level the playing field) I've seen from people on here about this. It took me awhile to figure out why that was bothering me.
 
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