Yep. I'd rather have the mothers stay home and raise the children properly then have them back at work in a stressful environment after going through labor. I'll gladly give my tax dollars to help the cause.
Yep. I'd rather have the mothers stay home and raise the children properly then have them back at work in a stressful environment after going through labor. I'll gladly give my tax dollars to help the cause.
Then if you were planning on staying home when your 6 weeks is up what are you suppose to do financially?
Just wondering?
Um...have your spouse work?
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Originally posted by: Lucky
Then if you were planning on staying home when your 6 weeks is up what are you suppose to do financially?
Just wondering?
Um...have your spouse work?
Yes, but a lot of families rely on two incomes and have a hard time making ends meet on one income. That's a whole other issue of course, the whole cost of living thing, especially here in the Vancouver area.
I have hobby
It's called breeding
welfare pays
for baby feeding.
(forgot which thread this was from)
Not sure what I think about the whole thing. Is it better to save enough money yourself to take 1 year off work, or to pay that money to the government and have them save it for you?
In US the answer is Self, in Canada the answer is Government. Not sure which is better.
I do think there is a problem of parents not spending enough time with their kids in the US.
It's called breeding
welfare pays
for baby feeding.
(forgot which thread this was from)
Not sure what I think about the whole thing. Is it better to save enough money yourself to take 1 year off work, or to pay that money to the government and have them save it for you?
In US the answer is Self, in Canada the answer is Government. Not sure which is better.
I do think there is a problem of parents not spending enough time with their kids in the US.
You're right about taxes, I don't get to choose. I don't like it a bit, nor do I like thugs (another name for gov't) forcing money out of me to pay for their "generosity". As for EI paying for maternity leave, that is what they claim anyway. So it looks like I didn't pay after all
As for the most important job statement, I'm the one who takes care of the kid, are fathers excluded?
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You're right about taxes, I don't get to choose. I don't like it a bit, nor do I like thugs (another name for gov't) forcing money out of me to pay for their "generosity". As for EI paying for maternity leave, that is what they claim anyway. So it looks like I didn't pay after all
As for the most important job statement, I'm the one who takes care of the kid, are fathers excluded?[/quote]Of course not! And more power to you for taking on this awesome responsibility.
I was merely referring to a higher percentage, being that women usually stay home with the kids, especially in the beginning due to recuperating and breast feeding. Just went through this and it was good.
Gov't only pays 55%, some might have a benefits package depending on where they work to bump to almost full wage.
Every doctor recommends at least a full year of breast feeding and the kids most important years are the first two of his whole life.
they learn almost 60% of all they will ever know in that period.
So who do you want to raise your kids ? Daycare or parents ? Talk about it 'takes a village to raise a child' means committing some bucks.
You wonder why you end up with screwed up kids when they are jostled off to any ole somebody to take care of them?
After the wifes UI ran out we chose to have her stay at home, now we have two, this one is just two weeks old and we are doing it one one wage.
I make a good wage and we have only the mortgage as debt but it aint cheap to raise kids we spend as much on diapers a month as we used to on food.
Personally at the age of two I could say four words, my 22 month old has a vocabulary of at least a thousand.
I graduated high school in the top 10% so I wasn't dumb, my mother had to go back to work after 6 weeks and I was dumped into daycare.
Being committed to be a good parent means a little sacrifice, kids love their parents more than they will ever love things.
Unforunately a working wage isn't what it used to be as correctly pointed out most families need double income to make it.
The gov't has decades to get back in taxes from both me and my wife what little they spent helping a young family out creating future taxpayers.
Do you know what the biggest economic hurdle is going to be in the next 20 years? A labor shortage in North America ! There is a reason why its getting hard to find nurses and teachers. They are all old boomers who are now retiring.
You talk about economic impact? Look a the big picture, economies grow when populations grow. people need a place to live , you need new consumers.
Don't beleive me? Looks at MacDonalds stock price and their willingness to close stores they cite the reasons as A LOSS OF MARKET DUE TO AGING CONSUMERS.
Kids go to McD's not adults. . .
You don't get Mat leave unless you HAVE HAD A JOB AND WOKRED A MIN NUMBERS OF HRS PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM
I don't think two years is a good idea though, it was nice to have the one year to wind down budgeting to a single income and most of the stuff bought that first year is recycled to our new baby therefore a lot of those one time costs are over.
Gov't only pays 55%, some might have a benefits package depending on where they work to bump to almost full wage.
Every doctor recommends at least a full year of breast feeding and the kids most important years are the first two of his whole life.
they learn almost 60% of all they will ever know in that period.
So who do you want to raise your kids ? Daycare or parents ? Talk about it 'takes a village to raise a child' means committing some bucks.
You wonder why you end up with screwed up kids when they are jostled off to any ole somebody to take care of them?
After the wifes UI ran out we chose to have her stay at home, now we have two, this one is just two weeks old and we are doing it one one wage.
I make a good wage and we have only the mortgage as debt but it aint cheap to raise kids we spend as much on diapers a month as we used to on food.
Personally at the age of two I could say four words, my 22 month old has a vocabulary of at least a thousand.
I graduated high school in the top 10% so I wasn't dumb, my mother had to go back to work after 6 weeks and I was dumped into daycare.
Being committed to be a good parent means a little sacrifice, kids love their parents more than they will ever love things.
Unforunately a working wage isn't what it used to be as correctly pointed out most families need double income to make it.
The gov't has decades to get back in taxes from both me and my wife what little they spent helping a young family out creating future taxpayers.
Do you know what the biggest economic hurdle is going to be in the next 20 years? A labor shortage in North America ! There is a reason why its getting hard to find nurses and teachers. They are all old boomers who are now retiring.
You talk about economic impact? Look a the big picture, economies grow when populations grow. people need a place to live , you need new consumers.
Don't beleive me? Looks at MacDonalds stock price and their willingness to close stores they cite the reasons as A LOSS OF MARKET DUE TO AGING CONSUMERS.
Kids go to McD's not adults. . .
You don't get Mat leave unless you HAVE HAD A JOB AND WOKRED A MIN NUMBERS OF HRS PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM
I don't think two years is a good idea though, it was nice to have the one year to wind down budgeting to a single income and most of the stuff bought that first year is recycled to our new baby therefore a lot of those one time costs are over.
Originally posted by: Sealy
You're right about taxes, I don't get to choose. I don't like it a bit, nor do I like thugs (another name for gov't) forcing money out of me to pay for their "generosity". As for EI paying for maternity leave, that is what they claim anyway. So it looks like I didn't pay after all
Of course not! And more power to you for taking on this awesome responsibility.
I was merely referring to a higher percentage, being that women usually stay home with the kids, especially in the beginning due to recuperating and breast feeding.[/quote]Ever hear of a breast pump (or "moo moo machine"). I feed the little guy as much as my wife did
A decent breast pump cost $$$
We have one it still doesn't replace a parent. If shes the bread winner so be it the father can take care of the child.
Your missing the issue of WHO is best suited to raise YOUR child, you or daycare? esp in the most importatn years.
All of the kids in my wifes playgroup, 10 others, who go to daycare are either chronically sick or bullies . .
We have one it still doesn't replace a parent. If shes the bread winner so be it the father can take care of the child.
Your missing the issue of WHO is best suited to raise YOUR child, you or daycare? esp in the most importatn years.
All of the kids in my wifes playgroup, 10 others, who go to daycare are either chronically sick or bullies . .
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Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Sealy
Originally posted by: hagbard
Of course not! And more power to you for taking on this awesome responsibility.
Ever hear of a breast pump (or "moo moo machine"). I feed the little guy as much as my wife did
Yes I used one as well, when my child was nursing. Personally I hated it! Did you ever try hooking yourself up to that thing!
Originally posted by: gopunk
here in america, we're not commies
In Soviet Russia.......... Kids go on maternity leave
Cheers.
Aquaman
Originally posted by: gopunk
here in america, we're not commies
In Left Wing Canada........... Beaver hump you
Cheers,
Aquaman
I think it should be six months. A woman should have the right to bond with her child uninterrupted for about 6-7 months. When Autumn was born my wife stayed home with her for just over 6 months. She wasnt getting any money after 13 weeks though. I think it should about 6 months or a bit more especially if they are going to breast feed. 1 year is a bit long, but 12 weeks is way to short.
A whole other issue? Nope, that is exactly this issue!Originally posted by: Sealy
Originally posted by: Lucky
Then if you were planning on staying home when your 6 weeks is up what are you suppose to do financially?
Just wondering?
Um...have your spouse work?
Yes, but a lot of families rely on two incomes and have a hard time making ends meet on one income. That's a whole other issue of course, the whole cost of living thing, especially here in the Vancouver area.
"A woman should have the right to bond with her child uninterrupted for about 6-7 months..."
God, I think I'm gonna puke! Have the right to bond! For crying out loud, who's trying to take that "right" away?
You left leaner, wieners are just going to have to face your responsibilities once and for all. It's your child, you decided when to get pregnant, when and where to work and what neighborhood to live in. You decide whether to rent or own your home, buy new or used cars and generally budget your own money. Yet you look to "the village" to help raise YOUR kid? Ugh... that IS the difference between the US and Canada right there. A safety net and insurance is one thing, but this is normal life we're talking about. I'm afraid to ask where you'd draw the line on your ideal nanny state!
The joys of socialized medicare... I give it 20 years tops before the US goes that route.
:disgust:
:disgust:
Originally posted by: Ornery
A whole other issue? Nope, that is exactly this issue!Originally posted by: Sealy
Originally posted by: Lucky
Then if you were planning on staying home when your 6 weeks is up what are you suppose to do financially?
Just wondering?
Um...have your spouse work?
Yes, but a lot of families rely on two incomes and have a hard time making ends meet on one income. That's a whole other issue of course, the whole cost of living thing, especially here in the Vancouver area.
"A woman should have the right to bond with her child uninterrupted for about 6-7 months..."
God, I think I'm gonna puke! Have the right to bond! For crying out loud, who's trying to take that "right" away?
You left leaner, wieners are just going to have to face your responsibilities once and for all. It's your child, you decided when to get pregnant, when and where to work and what neighborhood to live in. You decide whether to rent or own your home, buy new or used cars and generally budget your own money. Yet you look to "the village" to help raise YOUR kid? Ugh... that IS the difference between the US and Canada right there. A safety net and insurance is one thing, but this is normal life we're talking about. I'm afraid to ask where you'd draw the line on your ideal nanny state!
The US is the worlds biggest "nanny", just look at its foreign policies for the past sixty years.
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