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Master Cleanser Fast

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http://www.ncahf.org/articles/e-i/fasting.html

"Contrary to the teachings of proponents, fasting doesn't "cleanse" or "rest" the liver. If anything, fasting overworks the liver by saturating it with toxins produced by fasting itself [2]. Fasting can be dangerous, especially when undertaken or supervised by ideologists who are blind to its actual effects. Shelton's fasting regime was responsible for several deaths. "
 
Originally posted by: Tom
http://www.ncahf.org/articles/e-i/fasting.html

"Contrary to the teachings of proponents, fasting doesn't "cleanse" or "rest" the liver. If anything, fasting overworks the liver by saturating it with toxins produced by fasting itself [2]. Fasting can be dangerous, especially when undertaken or supervised by ideologists who are blind to its actual effects. Shelton's fasting regime was responsible for several deaths. "
More from that link:

Physical Effects of Fasting

Except for the brain, which consumes more calories than any other organ and has a constant need for glucose whether one is asleep or awake, one's metabolic rate varies with physical activity and by day and nightime effects. The body's ongoing need for nutrition is met by stores in the cells and liver, circulating blood, and gastrointestinal contents. Fasting causes blood sugar to drop. This leads to a breakdown (catabolism) of muscle and other protein tissue for energy. During fasting, catabolism is a kind of "self-cannibalism" the by-products of which (ammonia and urea) lead to acidosis that produces weakness, fatigue, irritability, depression, depressed libido, and a sick feeling. Fasting does not cleanse the system, but loads it with metabolic toxins while decreasing its ability to destroy and excrete these. Fasting leads to rapid loss of water, sodium, and potassium. This decreases blood volume which produces postural hypotension (low blood pressure when standing up), and fainting. Severe potassium depletion can cause a fatal heart rhythm disturbance. The body cannot differentiate between voluntary fasting and starvation and deaths have occurred even with medically supervised fasts and near-fasts. People who survive prolonged fasts (starvation) may suffer anemia, decreased immunity, osteoporosis, kidney damage, or liver damage. Depressed gastrointestinal or digestive functions may persist for weeks or months [v]. The worst thing about fasting is its destruction of lean and vital tissue needed for a healthy and active life. Fasting, like colonic irrigation, laxatives, sweat baths, and other naturopathic regimes are at best useless, and at worst, can be fatal. Fasting is particularly dangerous for children.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Tom
http://www.ncahf.org/articles/e-i/fasting.html

"Contrary to the teachings of proponents, fasting doesn't "cleanse" or "rest" the liver. If anything, fasting overworks the liver by saturating it with toxins produced by fasting itself [2]. Fasting can be dangerous, especially when undertaken or supervised by ideologists who are blind to its actual effects. Shelton's fasting regime was responsible for several deaths. "
More from that link:

Physical Effects of Fasting

Except for the brain, which consumes more calories than any other organ and has a constant need for glucose whether one is asleep or awake, one's metabolic rate varies with physical activity and by day and nightime effects. The body's ongoing need for nutrition is met by stores in the cells and liver, circulating blood, and gastrointestinal contents. Fasting causes blood sugar to drop. This leads to a breakdown (catabolism) of muscle and other protein tissue for energy. During fasting, catabolism is a kind of "self-cannibalism" the by-products of which (ammonia and urea) lead to acidosis that produces weakness, fatigue, irritability, depression, depressed libido, and a sick feeling. Fasting does not cleanse the system, but loads it with metabolic toxins while decreasing its ability to destroy and excrete these. Fasting leads to rapid loss of water, sodium, and potassium. This decreases blood volume which produces postural hypotension (low blood pressure when standing up), and fainting. Severe potassium depletion can cause a fatal heart rhythm disturbance. The body cannot differentiate between voluntary fasting and starvation and deaths have occurred even with medically supervised fasts and near-fasts. People who survive prolonged fasts (starvation) may suffer anemia, decreased immunity, osteoporosis, kidney damage, or liver damage. Depressed gastrointestinal or digestive functions may persist for weeks or months [v]. The worst thing about fasting is its destruction of lean and vital tissue needed for a healthy and active life. Fasting, like colonic irrigation, laxatives, sweat baths, and other naturopathic regimes are at best useless, and at worst, can be fatal. Fasting is particularly dangerous for children.

Come on, you can do better than that...why would this be more credible than my link? Plus this is talking about water fasts or juice fasts..mine is quite different.
 
Originally posted by: azazyel
Come on, you can do better than that...why would this be more credible than my link?
Because it gives a scientific explanation for the risks?
 
"why would this be more credible than my link? "

well, for one thing, wtf is the point of using maple syrup ? does it have magical properties that plain old suger water doesn't have ? just that would make me wonder, about that stuff.
 
Please I wouldn't call that too scientific. The guy quotes Stanley Bass, ND, DC, PhC (Philosopher of Chiropractic), what the hell is a Philosopher of Chiropractic? Plus, look at the credentials of the guy who wrote it.

B.S., Health and Physical Education, University of Minnesota, 1961
M.A., Health and Physical Education, Kent State University, 1968
Ph.D., Health Education (School and community health), University of Oregon, 1973. Dissertation topic: An Analysis of the Effect of a Self-instruction Course about Chiropractic on the Knowledge and Attitudes of Prospective Health Education Teachers at the University of Oregon.

Anyways like I said I am not doing a juice fast nor a water fast. The ingredients I use give me the majority of the nutrients I need.
 
Originally posted by: Tom
"why would this be more credible than my link? "

well, for one thing, wtf is the point of using maple syrup ? does it have magical properties that plain old suger water doesn't have ? just that would make me wonder, about that stuff.

maple=magic food

What do you think elves live on?

😉
 
Originally posted by: Tom
"why would this be more credible than my link? "

well, for one thing, wtf is the point of using maple syrup ? does it have magical properties that plain old suger water doesn't have ? just that would make me wonder, about that stuff.

Grade B maple syrup contains a large variety of minerals and vitamins. These include: potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese, iron, copper, phosphorus, sulfur, chlorine and silicon. Vitamin A, B1, B2, B6, C, nicotinic acid and pantothenic acid are also present.

It's the real deal type, not Mrs. butterworth.
 
I did this last fall, but cracked on the fifth day. I wasn't really hungry, but I just really wanted food, if that makes any sense. I didn't experience any ill effects from the fast, but I wasn't really exercising much during it either. I did not drink any salt water, but did drink laxative tea every night. I did not experience any strange smells.
 
I can do a google search too.. 🙂

"Maple Syrup: When it's all said and done, 35 to 50 gallons of sap are boiled down to get 1 gallon of maple syrup, which is mainly sucrose: the same simple sugar as white sugar. Maple syrup contains a few trace minerals, and Grade B syrup has more than Grade A. Unfortunately, trace amounts mean that these nutrients are present in such tiny amounts that they have little significance to human nutrition."
 
Originally posted by: Tom
I can do a google search too.. 🙂

"Maple Syrup: When it's all said and done, 35 to 50 gallons of sap are boiled down to get 1 gallon of maple syrup, which is mainly sucrose: the same simple sugar as white sugar. Maple syrup contains a few trace minerals, and Grade B syrup has more than Grade A. Unfortunately, trace amounts mean that these nutrients are present in such tiny amounts that they have little significance to human nutrition."

That was definitely one part of the fast I took with a grain of salt - I find it hard to believe that Grade B syrup has the kind of mystical properties the Master Cleanser folks attribute to it. I ended up just using Grade A, because I couldn't find any Grade B locally (unfortunately I don't live in Vermont!).
 
Originally posted by: Tom
I can do a google search too.. 🙂

"Maple Syrup: When it's all said and done, 35 to 50 gallons of sap are boiled down to get 1 gallon of maple syrup, which is mainly sucrose: the same simple sugar as white sugar. Maple syrup contains a few trace minerals, and Grade B syrup has more than Grade A. Unfortunately, trace amounts mean that these nutrients are present in such tiny amounts that they have little significance to human nutrition."

Look I am done debating this I am just reporting from now on.

http://www.massmaple.org/nutrition.html
http://ohioline.osu.edu/b856/b856_146.html
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=115
 
Page on one of azayzel linked sitesSome people worry about the prospect of going without solid foods, yet such fears are groundless. The Neera Detox Diet is a health program, not a fast. A true fast is complete abstinence from food of any kind. The Neera Detox Diet, however, is liquid food - nourishing and energizing.

so far so good...

It is very important not to burden the body with solid food during the Neera Detox Diet. Digesting solid food consumes much of the body's energy and overrides many of its other tasks. In the absence of solid food the body can focus its energy on cleansing.

consumption of energy by the brain is independant of consumption by the muscles, liver, intestines, etc... Each system uses energy as it needs it and the body is (usually) very good and supplying the needs of the whole body by reulating blood sugar as needed. Also, you are more likely to focus your energy on thinking about food...

Throughout history, experience has shown a periodic abstinence from solid food to be a blessing for the entire organism, the best investment in improved health and a longer natural life span.

this is just BS. If you have no evidence, the old "experience has shown" argument works real well...

The body is very energy-efficient. In the absence of newly ingested proteins the body literally lives off itself by a process called autolysis, in which amino acids are extracted from tired and damaged cells, resynthesized and re-used. The old cells are thus effectively disposed of, and the formation of new cells is sped up. The body however, will never consume or damage its own essential tissues or vital organs.

This is basically true. However, it is a process that creates a large amount of highly toxic by products that stress the kidneys and liver to dispose of them...

Meanwhile, the eliminative organs (lungs, liver, lymphatic system, kidneys and skin) are themselves cleansed, ensuring the rapid expulsion of accumulated metabolic wastes. The digestive, assimilative and protective organs all benefit from a well-deserved rest. In turn, they focus on efficiently cleansing the body. There is a positive effect on all vital physiological, nervous and mental functions. The biochemical and mineral balance of tissues is normalized, and glandular chemistry and hormonal secretions are stimulated.

This is just blatant BS... If you want to cleanse yourself, eat a bran muffin...
 
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Tom
I can do a google search too.. 🙂

"Maple Syrup: When it's all said and done, 35 to 50 gallons of sap are boiled down to get 1 gallon of maple syrup, which is mainly sucrose: the same simple sugar as white sugar. Maple syrup contains a few trace minerals, and Grade B syrup has more than Grade A. Unfortunately, trace amounts mean that these nutrients are present in such tiny amounts that they have little significance to human nutrition."

Look I am done debating this I am just reporting from now on.

http://www.massmaple.org/nutrition.html
http://ohioline.osu.edu/b856/b856_146.html
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=115

Someone is sad because he is being pwned. 😉
 
Originally posted by: TheBDB
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Tom
I can do a google search too.. 🙂

"Maple Syrup: When it's all said and done, 35 to 50 gallons of sap are boiled down to get 1 gallon of maple syrup, which is mainly sucrose: the same simple sugar as white sugar. Maple syrup contains a few trace minerals, and Grade B syrup has more than Grade A. Unfortunately, trace amounts mean that these nutrients are present in such tiny amounts that they have little significance to human nutrition."

Look I am done debating this I am just reporting from now on.

http://www.massmaple.org/nutrition.html
http://ohioline.osu.edu/b856/b856_146.html
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=115

Someone is sad because he is being pwned. 😉

No, it's because there is not enough clinical research to really debate this. It boils down to opinion.
 
Originally posted by: TheBDB
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Tom
I can do a google search too.. 🙂

"Maple Syrup: When it's all said and done, 35 to 50 gallons of sap are boiled down to get 1 gallon of maple syrup, which is mainly sucrose: the same simple sugar as white sugar. Maple syrup contains a few trace minerals, and Grade B syrup has more than Grade A. Unfortunately, trace amounts mean that these nutrients are present in such tiny amounts that they have little significance to human nutrition."

Look I am done debating this I am just reporting from now on.

http://www.massmaple.org/nutrition.html
http://ohioline.osu.edu/b856/b856_146.html
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=115

Someone is sad because he is being pwned. 😉

No it's because there is not enough clinical research on either side to actually have a debate about it.
 
Originally posted by: azazyelIt boils down to opinion.
The opinion of those who understand enough biology to know that the claims are hogwash and the opinion of those people trying to sell you maple syrup as a cure all or something...

😛
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: azazyelIt boils down to opinion.
The opinion of those who understand enough biology to know that the claims are hogwash and the opinion of those people trying to sell you maple syrup as a cure all or something...

😛

From the guy who posted info from a glorified PE teacher. 😛
 
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