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Massive Peace Rally in Tel Aviv, Israel...EDIT: More Pics

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Sat May 11, 5:56 PM ET

Israelis Rally for Pullout From West Bank, Gaza

TEL AVIV (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of left-wing Israelis rallied on Saturday night to call for an Israeli withdrawal from Palestinian territories in what organizers said was the biggest peace demonstration for 20 years. The protest was organized by the Peace Now movement, which has been marginalized of late by public outrage over Palestinian suicide bombings which have killed scores of Israelis in an uprising against occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Police estimated the crowd at about 60,000. Peace Now put the figure at above 150,000, calling it the biggest peace rally since some 200,000 people turned out in 1982 to call for an Israeli military pullout from Lebanon.

Opposition politicians and artists addressed a throng waving a sea of banners saying "Leave the territories for the sake of Israel" and "Two states for two peoples."

Crowds spilled out of Rabin Square, named after late Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin shot dead by a Jewish extremist after addressing a peace rally there in 1995, two years after forging an interim peace deal with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.

Talks on a final settlement broke down in 2000 over issues including Jewish settlements in territories Israel captured in the 1967 Middle East war and Palestinians' insistence on the right of return to Israel of refugees displaced since 1948.

Palestinians rose up in September 2000 against occupation in much of the West Bank and Gaza outside towns which were given self-rule under the interim peace accords.

About 200 people held a demonstration in New York in sympathy with the Tel Aviv rally. "We're against Sharon now, his policies will not prevail," Rabbi Israeli Dresner told the crowd. "We believe that peace is possible and that it's probable."
 
good news 🙂

I wish there would be a demonstration like that in Palestine someday, sooner the better


btw, forum issues probably

Vespasian

05/11/2002 11:29 PM
by vespasian

This is what I see when I look at your thread, first is the poster and second is the one who did the last post, but it has a v instead of a V. I'm picky I know 😛
 
The Hamaz are and probably are planning another bombing attack. This prove again that the Israelis are the ones who want real peace. The Arabs want the Israelis in pieces.
 
I don't know what to say. I'm shocked. Even my sig cannot describe how i feel right now.

What are they rallying for? The terrorist groups clearly said that they do not want land, nor peace. They said that they will not stop until Israel no longer exists. Do they not realise that even if Arafat wanted peace, which he doesn't, nothing would change because he has zero control over the actions of groups such as Hamas? What is it that they want their government to do? Sit back and watch their citizens get murdered? Every time Israel goes anywhere near the negotiating table, another terrorist attack occurs. This has been happening for years. The terrorists don't want peace. They want to destroy Israel.

The only reason Israelis are still being bombed on a daily basis is because Ariel Sharon isn't doing nearly enough to stop the terrorists. He keeps caving in to pressure from other countries who don't know half the story. There have been hundreds of attacks on Israel so far, and documents exist to prove that they were financed by the Palestinian Authority. Can you IMAGINE what would happen if the USA was in Israel's shoes. Each and every country that even hinted that they don't oppose the terrorists would be wiped off the face off the Earth. Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, you name em. Arial Sharon should do what needs to be done to save his country. If that means leaving a gigantic hole in the ground where Palestine used to be, then so be it.
 
<<What are they rallying for? >>

Most Israeli's polled show that more violence and incursions by the military is not going to lead to sustained peace. Diplomacy is much more important. Heck, even Israel's Defense Minister believes in that. In the morning, he helps defend Israel. At night, he meets with Palestinian leaders to work something out. Using the military is only a temporary solution.
 
Ordinary Palestinians support the suicide bombings. Actually, the majority of Arabs support the suicide bombings. Some the hottest movies in Egypt reenact the suicide bombing and the people there cheer on happily (this was on the BBC for America a week ago). The only time peace work is when both sides want peace.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Ordinary Palestinians support the suicide bombings.
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At least that's what you hope .
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Some news agency out there really should do a big survey on support among the "ordinary Palestinians." I'd like to know what the number really is...
 
1 in 10 Palestinians have a family member killed by the Israeli Army. 1 in 5 have been injured by the Israeli Army.

Just by looking at these stats, its not hard to believe Palestinians support suicide bombers. Many people are desperate, and they believe this is the only way out of the problem.

I personally believe these suicide bombs are a result of the oppresion the Palestinians have faced since 1967. Once the occupation ends, and Israel stops their constant "terrorist crack down operations", then these bombers will stop.
 
Originally posted by: Kilban
1 in 10 Palestinians have a family member killed by the Israeli Army. 1 in 5 have been injured by the Israeli Army.
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Yowza, so 230,000 previously-injured Palestinians? No wonder they're angry.

I personally believe these suicide bombs are a result of the oppresion the Palestinians have faced since 1967. Once the occupation ends, and Israel stops their constant "terrorist crack down operations", then these bombers will stop.
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Like I've asked before, why were there no suicide bombings between 1948 and 1967 when it was Jordan who was gettin' their oppression on?
 
all they need

1. get arafat out of there, and get a security force that will keep the ppl in jail and not just let them come in the front door and exit out the back.
2. rebuild palestinian jails so they can actually imprison those extremists.
3. Israeli withdrawal from palestinian areas

all they want is an identity. I think Israeli's and Palestinians can co-exist in their own states. They better realize they will never drive Israeli's out. The day they do is the day this world is engulfed in a sea of hell.
 
The Hamaz group said themselves that most bombers are volunteered from ordinary Palestinians, just go to a Hamaz website and email them a question if you think I'm making stuffs up. If you justify the Palestinian suicide attacks, then you must justify the Israelis response, we won't get anywhere that way. Everytime there some kind of negotiation, a bomber shows up.
 
Like I've asked before, why were there no suicide bombings between 1948 and 1967 when it was Jordan who was gettin' their oppression on?
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And some of the worst terrorist acts occured in the late 1920's and 1930's (e.g., the 1929 Hebron Massacre). But I don't want to get into an argument about that in this thread. I want this thread to be peaceful. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Like I've asked before, why were there no suicide bombings between 1948 and 1967 when it was Jordan who was gettin' their oppression on?
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And some of the worst terrorist acts occured in the late 1920's and 1930's (e.g., the 1929 Hebron Massacre). But I don't want to get into argument about that in this thread. I want this thread to be peaceful. 🙂
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Yeah...my fault...sorry about that 🙂
 
I want the official website URL.

The Hamaz group said themselves that most bombers are volunteered from ordinary Palestinians, just go to a Hamaz website and email them a question if you think I'm making stuffs up. If you justify the Palestinian suicide attacks, then you must justify the Israelis response, we won't get anywhere that way. Everytime there some kind of negotiation, a bomber shows up.
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When you listen to one of their statements, they are always refering to Israeli aggression. When that stops, the suicide bombs will stop.
 
Originally posted by: prontospyder
The extremists on both sides are causing most of the problems.
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Exactly. Obviously both sides don't particularly like each others views, but only a very small handful are willing to go to the extreme some have done. And with both two hot heads in office (Sharon and Arafat) not much will get done. 🙁


all they need

1. get arafat out of there, and get a security force that will keep the ppl in jail and not just let them come in the front door and exit out the back.
2. rebuild palestinian jails so they can actually imprison those extremists.
3. Israeli withdrawal from palestinian areas

all they want is an identity. I think Israeli's and Palestinians can co-exist in their own states. They better realize they will never drive Israeli's out. The day they do is the day this world is engulfed in a sea of hell.
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Yup. They have much more in common then they do in difference. They both want to have access to health care, a job, and an education for their children.
 
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