It sound nice, buy it now, wait till their are plenty of games etc for GF3, then buy GF3. This might be a very dumb question, but will a gfx card like the Radeon 2 work seamlessly with this chipset?
MichaelD
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OK, now that I've read everyone's responses/opinions and they are in "English", I'm excited as well. I needed a more layman's terms explanation for me to fully grasp the significance of this chip.
OK, we are ALL excited about never, ever needing a VIA driver again. I'll play Devil's Advocate here; what are the chances/odds that NVidia's "All in One" driver is buggy too?
I want to get rid of the Via's as much as the next guy, but I think we may be counting chickens too soon here. Let's see some benchies and let NFS4 be the Guniea Pig and test it for us! (Joke! ) I'd really like to see how it compares to:
1. A "standard" benchmark KT133/133A SDR board
2. A "standard" benchmark DDR (AMD 760?) board.
My $.02.
OK, we are ALL excited about never, ever needing a VIA driver again. I'll play Devil's Advocate here; what are the chances/odds that NVidia's "All in One" driver is buggy too?
I want to get rid of the Via's as much as the next guy, but I think we may be counting chickens too soon here. Let's see some benchies and let NFS4 be the Guniea Pig and test it for us! (Joke! ) I'd really like to see how it compares to:1. A "standard" benchmark KT133/133A SDR board
2. A "standard" benchmark DDR (AMD 760?) board.
My $.02.
This DOES look extremely exciting, but keep in mind that these are nVidia provided benchmarks. I'm NOT denying that this is going to be a great product; I just want to see some "independent" reviews. Remember the nVidia marketing .pdf about the KyroII? These people aren't nice, don't play fairly, and can use whatever benchmarks they choose...
Things are gettting really interesting now. It seems that we 'AMD users' made the right investment.
wow, now we have a high performance SiS chipset on a single chip, and a deluxe integrated chipset by nvidia for the Athlon. people thought the P4 would come of age in a few months and now it's going to get slapped silly in price and performance. I bet Intel never factored in nvidia when they were sitting round the table thinking up a processor to con the public with MHz and the evil RAMBUS.
As excited as I am about this chipset--and that's *very* excited; I may have to upgrade in 6 months now--I'm gonna guess that it'll be an expensive-as-balls board. You have all this wonderful stuff, and it's Nvidia, a company that loves to charge nice, high prices. You have a bunch of stuff that's never before been seen on a chipset. I'm going to guess minimum $160, probably $180. That being said, this chipset could make the computer building process so much easier--somebody wants a computer, you get a mobo, cdrom/hard drive/floppy, a cpu/hsf, and a unified driver and you're done
About time there's been some good hardware news.
Oh, that reminds me: what does everybody think of the claim that the p4 with DDR will underperform the p4 with RDRAM? Seems to me that it's a very good thing for AMD.
About time there's been some good hardware news.
Oh, that reminds me: what does everybody think of the claim that the p4 with DDR will underperform the p4 with RDRAM? Seems to me that it's a very good thing for AMD.
Nvdia has gone gunning for some big people and is looking to corner 3 sectors I think, sound card, value video cards and motherboard designers.
What would be peoples fantasy board be made of i.e an Ati nforce with creative sound, personally the only thing I think they missed out on was perhaps intergrated bluetooth (to costly?).
What would be peoples fantasy board be made of i.e an Ati nforce with creative sound, personally the only thing I think they missed out on was perhaps intergrated bluetooth (to costly?).
I am so excited. I love AMD processors but haven't used them as much as Intel because of the chipsets that power each of the processors. Intel has always seemed to make much more stable chipsets than the crap Via and ALI gives AMD customers. If the nForce is indeed stable and as fast as it sounds, it is really good news for AMD. This is something that AMD needed all along, a cheap integrated motherboard to compete with Intel's i815 chipset. I could sell my SB Live Gamer and apply that towards the purchase of this mobo and use my Geforce 3. I am so excited to be an AMD Athlon owner now.
Adul
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Adul
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<< Yo
What board is closer to mass production, the SiS 735 mobo's or the Crush chipset? >>
I don't care...the SiS735 is dead and buried as far as I'm concerned
>>Anyone want to burn their via board when they get a nforce to replace it?
oh, and video tape it too. 
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<< I am so excited. I love AMD processors but haven't used them as much as Intel because of the chipsets that power each of the processors. Intel has always seemed to make much more stable chipsets than the crap Via and ALI gives AMD customers. If the nForce is indeed stable and as fast as it sounds, it is really good news for AMD. This is something that AMD needed all along, a cheap integrated motherboard to compete with Intel's i815 chipset. I could sell my SB Live Gamer and apply that towards the purchase of this mobo and use my Geforce 3. I am so excited to be an AMD Athlon owner now. >>
I know what you mean. I could sell my modem, Santa Cruz, and Netgear NIC and have half of the $$$ to buy an nForce. I'm there baby!!
For what it's worth, the crush isn't designed to compete with the i815, it's designed to kick it in the nutzoes. It's gonna do it, too.
As for via, I dislike their chipsets as much as the next guy, but this particular mobo (kt133a) is really frickin' stable and it hasn't been too much of an annoyance. I'd say it's as good as if not better than my earlier 440 bx.
As for via, I dislike their chipsets as much as the next guy, but this particular mobo (kt133a) is really frickin' stable and it hasn't been too much of an annoyance. I'd say it's as good as if not better than my earlier 440 bx.
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<< For what it's worth, the crush isn't designed to compete with the i815, it's designed to kick it in the nutzoes. It's gonna do it, too.
As for via, I dislike their chipsets as much as the next guy, but this particular mobo (kt133a) is really frickin' stable and it hasn't been too much of an annoyance. I'd say it's as good as if not better than my earlier 440 bx. >>
I'm still having USB issues with my KT133A board and it pisses me off. I can't wait to bow down to the nForce.
760MP is too overkill for me, but the nForce is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right
Adul
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My thought on this chipset( now that I have stopped drooling)
Anyone else care to add
- Will make the duron integrated solution absolutely kick the crap out of the celeron integrated colution. Hell it will probaly give the p3 a run for its money.
- This will help AMD in the business segment if the compatibility and stablity are = to intel's. The unified driver alone would make this very tempting to businesses. Less drivers to conflict and update = less headaches.
- You can make one hell of a budget gaming system with this.
- You can build a nice entertainment system with this chipset and use the dolby digital 5.1 sound
- The size of my lan PC just got way smaller! Hell, I hope some of the mb will come with slanted ram slots so I can use a 1U case.
Anyone else care to add
One of the more exciting things to be about this board is the HQ integrated sound. Conceivably there will be no VIA/SB Live type issues as long as you use the onboard sound. (Aureal, anyone?)
I think it would be great if nVidia marketing the sound subsystem as a separate add-in PCI device but I doubt they will since it will mean more R&D and a dedicated sound chip. Aureal engineers have proven themselves in the sound industry so it would be nice to have them back with an add-in board.
I think it would be great if nVidia marketing the sound subsystem as a separate add-in PCI device but I doubt they will since it will mean more R&D and a dedicated sound chip. Aureal engineers have proven themselves in the sound industry so it would be nice to have them back with an add-in board.
Imagine if NVIDIA were in Japan or China or another country where companies are more free to expand than in the US (ie Sony which makes computers, home audio, home video, games, movies, cameras, and other companies like toshiba, Yamaha, Hyundai etc.). We might someday be driving NVIDIA cars or watch movies on our tForce TV's or something.
<< Aureal engineers have proven themselves in the sound industry so it would be nice to have them back with an add-in board >>
NVIDIA hired a bunch of ex-Aureal engineers. It's good to see that they can still make excellent products.
Adul
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I completely forgotten about nvidia taking in aureal's engineers. Haha, funny, they have come back to bite creative in the ass.
GTaudiophile
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Wait and build your system with this chipset! We should start seeing boards in August/September.
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