Massive Explosion in China

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TechBoyJK

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The size of the fireball was increased due to the flammable gas. It looks like it would have been a much larger scale explosion because of this.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Well, that is how a MOAB works more or less...

Seeing this reminded me of the video of a Ammo Dump going up during the Iraqi insurgency. As I recall, the video was from the insurgents who were carrying out an attack on the Dump.
 

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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no that's just what some dude calculated based on population density and the force of the blast

Well that's definitely good to hear. The Google Earth photo posted earlier looked very industrial At that time of night and after a fire had already been burning hopefully the casualties are as low as being reported.
 

Nebor

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Seeing this reminded me of the video of a Ammo Dump going up during the Iraqi insurgency. As I recall, the video was from the insurgents who were carrying out an attack on the Dump.

If you're talking about the video with the very visible shockwave crossing the desert, it was a controlled demolition of captured insurgent armaments & old munitions left over from the Iraq\Iran war.
 

Triumph

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Well that's definitely good to hear. The Google Earth photo posted earlier looked very industrial At that time of night and after a fire had already been burning hopefully the casualties are as low as being reported.

Given the size of that blast, and the fact that it's the Chinese government, I'd suspect any official number is short by a factor of 10.
 

sandorski

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If you're talking about the video with the very visible shockwave crossing the desert, it was a controlled demolition of captured insurgent armaments & old munitions left over from the Iraq\Iran war.

This was a night time attack by insurgents. No shockwave that I remember.
 

96Firebird

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We have a factory in the Binhai region of Tianjin, about 4 miles from the port. There was no damage done to our building, expect for a few broken lights and a couple factory doors that fell. However, the general manager's daughter was taken to the hospital. She had to get glass shards taken out of her and I guess had some teeth knocked out. They are staying in a hotel because of damage to their apartment. Everything in the area is closed down due to the air pollution from the burning chemicals, our factory is closed tomorrow as well.

Crazy big explosion though...
 

woolfe9998

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This drone footage of the aftermath really puts this in perspective.

Given the amount of structural devastation shown in that video, I don't understand how only 50 were killed. If that's really true, I'd say they were lucky, relatively speaking.
 
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Given the amount of structural devastation shown in that video, I don't understand how only 50 were killed. If that's really true, I'd say they were lucky, relatively speaking.

It was a fire at night in a facility known to house volatile chemicals in an industrial complex. They probably didn't have many people there and would have had time to do evacuations in some capacity. Would explain the low death tolls and why the majority of injuries were in surrounding areas from glass broken by the pressure wave.
 

Drako

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Given the amount of structural devastation shown in that video, I don't understand how only 50 were killed. If that's really true, I'd say they were lucky, relatively speaking.

Luckily it happened late at night, and not during the day when there were a lot more people in that area.
 

LTC8K6

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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2015/08/14/0200000000AEN20150814001300320.html

South Korea's top carmaker Hyundai Motor is estimated to have lost 160 billion won (US$136 million) from huge explosions in China's northeast port city of Tianjin, industry watchers said Friday.
Hyundai had parked around 4,000 automobiles at the site, including Genesis and Equus luxury sedans.

Other carmakers are also estimated to have suffered damages from the explosion, including Germany-based Volkswagen which lost 2,750 automobiles, sources said.
 

Jaepheth

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[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33945293]BBC[/url] said:
China Tianjin blasts: Evacuations as sodium cyanide found


The Chinese authorities have ordered the evacuation of residents within a 3km radius of the Tianjin blast site over fears of chemical contamination.

The evacuations came after an apparent change in wind direction, and as police confirmed the highly toxic chemical sodium cyanide was found near the site.

A man was found alive 50m from the blast core, Xinhua news agency said.

At least 104 people are reported to have died in the giant blasts in the north-east Chinese port on Wednesday.

Latest pictures of the aftermath

People sheltering at a school used as a safe haven since the disaster have been asked to leave wearing masks and long trousers, reports say.

The order came after the wind apparently changed direction, prompting fears that toxic particles that would have previously been blown out to sea could be blown inland.

Anti-chemical warfare troops have entered the site.

The People's Daily newspaper tweeted that they had been sent to handle highly toxic sodium cyanide which had been found there.

The discovery was confirmed by police "roughly east of the blast site" in an industrial zone, state-run Beijing News said.

Officials had until then only confirmed the presence of calcium carbide, potassium nitrate and sodium nitrate. Calcium carbide reacts with water to create the highly explosive acetylene.

Officials have so far insisted that air and water quality levels are safe.

Meanwhile Chinese President Xi Jinping urged the authorities to learn the "extremely profound" lessons and keep "safe growth" and "people's interest first" in mind to avoid similar accidents.

Well that sucks
 

sportage

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I'm goin to go the debbie downer route here.
Stuff like this can happen in China because they have little if any regulations.
We've seen the people walking around with white masks covering their mouth and I always thought it was some paranoid germ thing over there. Then I realized their air is to bad, people over in China have no choice but to wear a mask for protection and just breathing.
After the blast, the Chinese government would not even say if the fumes were toxic, or if the air was safe to breathe. Chinese officials had no moral or legal obligation to actually tell their own people what was in all that smoke and crud flying in the air from the blast(s).

Then it occurs to me, this is exactly the same policy the republican politicians would love to mirror over here in America.
Toss the clean air act along with the big bad governmental agency The EPA, out the window.
Rick Perry said exactly that in one debate. And not one republican challenged Rick on that.
And to take this even further, republicans want to pass laws banning our government from any moral or legal obligations to tell people what manufactures are putting in our air, our water, and our food.
In their opinion we the people have no right to know. Just as it is over in China.

So just imagine sending your kids off to school and telling them DON'T FORGET YOU FACE MASK.
And just imagine like explosions over here, with no government agency to tell people what happened, what is in the air, or if the air is breathable?
Or... if this might happen again? And where?

With the republicans fighting against the EPA and allowing companies to pollute to their hearts content with no accountability, well just imagine if they got their way?
Even worse, imagine feeding this anti EPA ideology to the masses, and the masses sucking it up?

If republicans controlling the government had their way, we would be exactly like China.
And if people can't see the down side to their personal life or to their families, then maybe living in China is right up your alley.