Article Massive battle of laptop chips (Core 8th gen all the way to Strix Halo including Snapdragon)

[igor_kavinski]

Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite Linux Performance Improving But Short Of AMD Ryzen & Intel Core Ultra - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

Some of the nicer benchmarks:

Compilation: https://www.phoronix.com/review/snapdragon-x1e-september/8

nginx: https://www.phoronix.com/review/snapdragon-x1e-september/12

PHP, Python, Node.js: https://www.phoronix.com/review/snapdragon-x1e-september/13

 

[johnsonwax]

No Apple Silicon? Come on cowards, throw a M4 Max in there.

 

[fastandfurious6]

strange results, Phoenix 7840HS (8c zen4) scores above HX370 (4+8 zen5) in most benches?

probably linux scheduler doesn't play well for the zen5 + zen5c ccd mix

 

[[robin]]

Snapdragon X Elite is catching up fast, but Linux optimization still looks half-baked. I think once kernel support gets tighter, it will surprise a lot of people.

 

[fastandfurious6]

windows ARM is a lagfest 100%

 

[igor_kavinski]

windows ARM is a lagfest 100%

You tried a Snapdragon laptop?

 

[WelshBloke]

No Apple Silicon? Come on cowards, throw a M4 Max in there.

Does Apple support Linux installs now?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Does Apple support Linux installs now?

Yes they allow it but there's only one distro for it and it's all reverse-engineered with zero help from Apple so a lot of the hardware doesn't work as expected. It only somewhat works up to M2 only.

About - Asahi Linux

asahilinux.org

johnson is probably expecting the reviewer to compare benchmarks that run natively on MacOS.

 

[fastandfurious6]

You tried a Snapdragon laptop?

no but I'm sure it's lagfest

 

[johnsonwax]

johnson is probably expecting the reviewer to compare benchmarks that run natively on MacOS.

How often do you find a linux tool that doesn't compile just fine on Mac UNIX?

 

[igor_kavinski]

How often do you find a linux tool that doesn't compile just fine on Mac UNIX?

I don't know but seems often enough otherwise the reviewer would have gone the extra mile. Or maybe he just hates MacOS in which case, I'll side with him.

 

[johnsonwax]

I don't know but seems often enough otherwise the reviewer would have gone the extra mile. Or maybe he just hates MacOS in which case, I'll side with him.

I mean, Apple Silicon is a valid AARCH64 target, and it's a proper POSIX/GNU environment. I never had a tool with AARCH64 support fail to compile. Ever.

And if it runs faster on linux than on MacOS, well, that's Apples problem to solve, no?

 

[igor_kavinski]

well, that's Apples problem to solve, no?

rachelbythebay.com

She's an Apple and Linux user, mostly because hardware doesn't matter to her. She is ex-Google and ex-Facebook. And according to her, Apple takes ages to fix firmware related bugs in their hardware like display issues etc.

Apple only cares about the money. That's all. You know that guy who spent time on making MacOS run on an Intel CPU? I bet he would've gotten fired if Apple management at the time saw no money in it. But they did. Steve Jobs got on a plane and showed it to Sony for their Vaio line of laptops but Sony declined. And then the Intel Macs happened.

Contrast that with so many other companies where employees are free to work on stuff unrelated to their main job if they don't have anything better to do, like opensource projects.I bet Apple is like Facebook, from where Rachel from the above link was fired because she would finish her tasks and then go around helping others. And she was given a warning to stop helping others. I guess they just got jealous that she was getting too popular with everyone.

 

[johnsonwax]

I think you fail to realize just how many open source projects Apple employees absolutely carry.

 

[poke01]

No Apple Silicon? Come on cowards, throw a M4 Max in there.

they can ask apple for one and they don't do it I wonder why?

Apple sends out review units if you ask them and they don't care how you review it but only to those who got a large following.

 

[poke01]

Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite Linux Performance Improving But Short Of AMD Ryzen & Intel Core Ultra - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

Some of the nicer benchmarks:

Compilation: https://www.phoronix.com/review/snapdragon-x1e-september/8

nginx: https://www.phoronix.com/review/snapdragon-x1e-september/12

PHP, Python, Node.js: https://www.phoronix.com/review/snapdragon-x1e-september/13

I hope they redo them once PTL and X2 Extreme come out next year. Lunar Lake gets destroyed in those charts lol

 

[igor_kavinski]

Lunar Lake gets destroyed in those charts lol

It actually did well considering it has only 8 threads and no HT. Intel stupidly gave away free performance boosts just when multithreaded software is getting popular and compilers are optimizing for AVX-512.