Mass shooting Boulder Colorado

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conehead433

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And we already have what appears as a wannabe copycat supermarket shooter.

A man entered a restroom at an Atlanta Publix on Mar 24, saw an AR-15 type weapon against a wall and heard sounds he associated with a weapon being loaded. He exited quickly, told management/security who called the police and evacuated the store. Police entered and saw the guy come around a corner and arrested him. He was wearing body armor, was carrying 4 loaded handguns and had a rifle and a shotgun in a bag.


Incident report: https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument?id=3819
Just think how many people this jerk could have (would have) killed if he hadn't had to stop and take a pee. Publix supposedly does not allow firearms in their stores, so a lot of killing could be done before he would be stopped.
 

dank69

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You mean the airstrikes that President Trump ordered after Syria used chemical weapons on civilians? The ones Obama said he'd do with his "line in the sand"




Maybe he was still too young?
Biden made the strike in response to people being killed. You think this guy thought Trump was justified but Biden wasn't? lol
 

Aikouka

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Well Homer it seems to me that about a month ago the Biden administration bombed Syria.

About a month later a Syrian born Islamic terrorist kills about 10 Americans.

"But why let the facts get in the way of your stupidity" Lefties say "derp derp derp ban guns , they evil"

I'm sorry, but that's a classic case of "correlation does not equal causation". It does not mean that what you're saying is not possible or that it's not correct, but you can't simply draw a line between two events with aspects that have a tenuous relation and say that there is a definitive link.
 
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Bitek

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My memory of Boulder is certainly as a major hippie town.

I always thought of it as East Berkeley. Lots of hippies, students, lesbians, outdoors ppl, and plenty of weed mixing in with rich yuppies and scientists & academics.
 
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pmv

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I'm sorry, but that's a classic case of "correlation does not equal causation". It does not mean that what you're saying is not possible or that it's not correct, but you can't simply draw a line between two events with aspects that have a tenuous relation and say that there is a definitive link.

It's more a case of Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc. Becuase it's hardly a 'correlation' when you only have two events. To find a correlation you'd need multiple middle-eastern bombings and multiple shootings. If anything it's even more blatently fallacious to just pick out two specific events and declare, without any evidence, that one caused the other. But that's because taj never ever makes the slightest pretence at rational argument, because his only objective is to shore-up his own beliefs, because at some level he knows he's wrong about pretty much everything.
 
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I'm curious what specifically is being presented as inaccurate.

I'm going to guess he's going to get very ba-a-a-shful and just keep repeating that he already told you only for you to ask where and he'll just keep claiming he told you, because he probably dreamt he told you off and was proven right and then fireworks shot off and he wants to gloat about it but even he probably can't find it or the post he thinks specifies it just shows he apparently can't even be bothered to read his own posts and that he really just posted "you were wrong!" with nothing to support it and yet thinks that proved it all.
 
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David Jenkins

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It most definitely days the right of all people.

The single complete thought of the sentence is "the right shall not be infringed". That's it. Subject. Verb. Predicate adjective. Take that away and you do not have a complete sentence in english grammar.

Everything else provides additional information.
What right? To keep and bear arms
Whose right? "Of the people"
Why? A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of the free state

Maybe the framers were trying to be eloquent, for all I know, but if they wanted arms restricted to a militia, there are a million ways to make that abundantly more clear than what we have.

You literally could say "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Then it would unquestionably apply the 2A specifically to the militia.

I know the grammar of the 2A has been debated at length. You'll find parties arguing both interpretations (militia vs. people) and the infamous comma argument, which I find comma-cal (had to pun) because it's entirely irrelevant. Comma or no, the subject and verb are the same.
A proper diagramming of the sentence tells all. Thanks mom (grammar teacher of nearly 30 years).

All that to say, yes further regulation is necessary because "shall not be infringed" is not synonymous with "cannot be regulated".

Edit: normally I don't post this early/late but I woke up and my brain is firing on all cylinders :(
This can go on...lol

There was no national guard when the 2nd amendment was adopted. The militia was the people and the weaponry of the militia was the individual arms the people kept :)

Words and their meaning change over time. In the 1700's meat could refer to any kind of food, not just that from an animal...

But I think we're going to the same middle...I support regulation, not banning of all guns.
 

Bitek

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"PUBLISHED: September 4, 2019 at 3:01 p.m. | UPDATED: September 4, 2019 at 3:46 p.m.
Customers who shop at Colorado’s 148 King Soopers and City Market stores are being asked to “no longer openly carry firearms” into the stores, echoing a move made by retail rival Walmart a day earlier."
I used to live in Wheatridge, just down Wadsworth from Arvada. You are wrong yet again, at least you can be proud of how consistent you are.

Really then? So your position is that somehow Kings is at fault due to the open carry ban?

But for the ban, there would have been scores of hippies, students, scientists and professors openly armed, ready and capable of taking down an active shooter who started his spree in the parking lot? Succeeded where the police veteran failed?

And you know this because you lived around Arvada at some point?

Fuckin absurd
 
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VRAMdemon

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Lol ... Lindsay Graham: I own an AR-15 in order to defend my house if roving "mobs" and "gangs" come to attack after natural disasters.


Even the mild recoil of an AR15 would dislocate the shoulder of a pussy like Lindsey Graham.

Remember the time he tried to break up with boyfriend Trump and was attacked by a violent hate-filled gang of “patriots”? Maybe that’s the gang he was talking about.
 

brycejones

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Really then? So your position is that somehow Kings is at fault due to the open carry ban?

But for the ban, there would have been scores of hippies, students, scientists and professors openly armed, ready and capable of taking down an active shooter who started his spree in the parking lot? Succeeded where the police veteran failed?

And you know this because you lived around Arvada at some point?

Fuckin absurd
If Taj had been there he would have totally handled the situation. Blindly throwing hand grenades down store aisles counts right?
 

HomerJS

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I've quoted you several times and I know you can read...
Just extract what I posted that he didn't say, otherwise you are just making up bullshit again.

Remember I quoted Johnson and then interpreted what it meant. What part of my quote was inaccurate?
I'll make it easy for you just highlight the Johnson quotes that were inaccurate

"
Sen Ron Johnson commenting on the insurrectionists. He was "not concerned" about the insurrectionists that stormed the capitol, killed and injured police. However same circumstances if it was BLM he would have been "concerned"

In other words, crime and insurrection is only crime and insurrection if done by black people. "
 
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pcgeek11

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Just extract what I posted that he didn't say, otherwise you are just making up bullshit again.

Remember I quoted Johnson and then interpreted what it meant. What part of my quote was inaccurate?
I'll make it easy for you just highlight the Johnson quotes that were inaccurate

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Sen Ron Johnson commenting on the insurrectionists. He was "not concerned" about the insurrectionists that stormed the capitol, killed and injured police. However same circumstances if it was BLM he would have been "concerned"

In other words, crime and insurrection is only crime and insurrection if done by black people. "


Last time:
Here is the Original post I responded too in its entirety:

Did you see my list? I do have rage for black people dying at the hands of police for shit like that while others committing henious acts are captured alive. There was a white guy killing state troopers and they took him in unharmed. Meanwhile Republicans are admitting out loud, crime is only crime if blacks are the perps."

Here is my response:

I haven't heard anyone say that except you. Do you have a link where someone said that?

Much later you decided to throw in the Johnson statement after some others already did. And your generous interpretation of what Johnson actually said. Which is no where near your original statement.

This is my last word on the subject.

 

shortylickens

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BUMP!


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I hope nobody flies off the handle over this one. Especially because of his name. This is the kind of thing that makes rednecks angry. Which is annoying because I think they perpetrate more shootings than most other groups in America.
 
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BUMP!


Declared mentally unfit:



I hope nobody flies off the handle over this one. Especially because of his name. This is the kind of thing that makes rednecks angry. Which is annoying because I think they perpetrate more shootings than most other groups in America.
Latest school shooting here in Texas.

Shot 4 people including his teacher, one student is still in a coma. Illegal gun, out on bail and his family throws him a big party.