Mass Effect: Andromeda Benchmarks [PCGH]

[tamz_msc]

So apparently BioWare claimed that a 1080Ti can do 4K60+ Ultra, while the Titan X Pascal barely breaks 30fps minimum in the PCGH tests.

This is probably the poorest showing of 4K for the Titan X pascal/1080Ti in a recent AAA release.

 

[tamz_msc]

Oh, and PCGH added the Zotac 1060 6GB AMP. It's ahead of the 3GB 1060 and RX 480 8GB by 10% on the minimums.

So much fasterrrrr!!!

 

[zlatan]

The medium option for mesh and terrain will disable tessellation. But it will disable a lot of other shaders.
For NV I recommend the high setting for mesh and quality, because it will allow tessellation if the displacement map exist, and only some terrain shaders will be disabled with the high settings.
For AMD it is safe to go with ultra, with the optimized tessellation profile in the driver. This will disable tessellation when the displacement map don't exist, but let all the shaders run.

NV may use the same kind of tessellation optimization later in the driver. They have tessellation profiles for some earlier title.

 

[Piroko]

I don't think the changes are noticeable, anyone see anything major different?

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree...a-Tessellation-AUS-via-Radeon-Driver-pcgh.png

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree...meda-Tessellation-Default-Maximumpng-pcgh.png

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree...ation-Optimization-via-Radeon-Driver-pcgh.png

I can see a difference in the rubble right next to the MCs feet between Tesselation off and on/optimized. And there are some minor differences in the geometry of the left rock, though those could be LOD differences.

I don't think I'll buy this game any time soon, there's something seriously uncanny going on with the character models.

 

[sontin]

The medium option for mesh and terrain will disable tessellation. But it will disable a lot of other shaders.
For NV I recommend the high setting for mesh and quality, because it will allow tessellation if the displacement map exist, and only some terrain shaders will be disabled with the high settings.
For AMD it is safe to go with ultra, with the optimized tessellation profile in the driver. This will disable tessellation when the displacement map don't exist, but let all the shaders run.

That is wrong. Only "Terrain Quality" is responsible for Tessellation. Tessellation will be enabled with "High" or "Ultra". Performance difference on Pascal is <=10% from "Medium" -> "Ultra". Doesnt make sense to use "High" on a nVidia card. And Tessellation is only applied when a displacement map is visible. There doesnt exist any other difference between "Medium" and higher settings.

NV may use the same kind of tessellation optimization later in the driver. They have tessellation profiles for some earlier title.

Stop spreading fud. nVidia doesnt cheat with Tessellation.

 

[PhonakV30]

Stop spreading fud. nVidia doesnt cheat with Tessellation.

tessellation optimization doesn't mean cheat , LOL!

 

[Raduque]

1060/480 level is low end, 1070 is middish, 1080 is nearly high, 1080 Ti is beyond high. Anything below 1060 is a waste of time. Pretty simple. And it ain't Day 1 with a fat Day 1 patch and everything ready to gold. Not exactly.

lol, my 970m isn't even mainstream. It's barely low-end anymore. :/

 

[crisium]

I've been forcing max 8x tessellation for a while. Generally, to me, 16x is the maximum possibly appreciable, but 8x isn't too far off unless you are taking notes so I'll take the performance. I'll do the same for this game. Or maybe turn it off if it's 99% useless here.

 

[snarfbot]

thats kinda the thing, if you cant really tell whether its on or off, then how could you even evaluate whether its worth the performance hit or not. it doesnt make sense.

 

[Carfax83]

Here's the Mass Effect Andromeda PC 4K HDR trailer. This trailer makes me sad for two reasons:

1) This game has incredible presentation when it comes to art direction and graphics, but the pathetic animations really impacts this.

2) Even with the recently released GTX 1080 Ti, 4K is still a really tough nut to crack. Looks like we'll have to wait for the next gen to be able to play Mass Effect Andromeda at 4K and 60 FPS on a single GPU

3) The 4K monitors with HDR that are being produced are pathetic 27 inchers.

 

[Yakk]

After seeing some gameplay video... Tessellation is the least of this game's problems...

OMG is the animation ever hideous! Looks worst than Garry's Mod videos, just with better lighting algorithms.

 

[Bacon1]

The 4K monitors with HDR that are being produced are pathetic 27 inchers.

LG 32UD99-W might be up your alley

animation ever hideous!

 

[.vodka]

...What's up with the facial animation? I think ME1 was better on that regard... Hmm... I don't think I'll be playing this game any time soon, I don't want to ruin my memories of the ME trilogy although this one is a fresh start. A year of patches + end year sale price should do.

It's good to know my 290 can more or less play this game...

 

[kondziowy]

So I was playing it yesterday and didn't notice any difference between Ultra and Medium+ultra textures+hbao. And medium gives a healthy performance boost.

1080p completly maxed out it was 50-70 fps on Fury so pretty nice. 1440p on Medium its 60+fps. 4K on low was pretty bad, only 30-50fps at best and under 40 in this game is not good anymore.

 

[Carfax83]

LG 32UD99-W might be up your alley

Doesn't support G-sync, and it doesn't look as though it supports refresh rates higher than 60Hz. A monitor is a big investment since one should expect to keep it for about 3 to 5 years. So when I buy one, I want it to support as many features and be as close to perfect as possible.

 

[ConsoleLover]

There is no issues with tessellation on this game, the pics you've seen don't do it justice. There is obviously huge difference on uneven surfaces, rocks, certain tiles, etc... Mountains in this game are prerendered, while walls/mountain blocks don't use tessellation for better performance. Rocks on the ground though, uneven terrain, paths, etc... use tessellation, but it changes from place to place.

Seems like Nvidia has a small advantage in this title as reference clocks, AIB clocks and manual OC clocks. At higher level OC at 1410MHz vs 2113MHz the GTX 1060 wins by 4-5fps.

 

[Magee_MC]

That is wrong. Only "Terrain Quality" is responsible for Tessellation. Tessellation will be enabled with "High" or "Ultra". Performance difference on Pascal is <=10% from "Medium" -> "Ultra". Doesnt make sense to use "High" on a nVidia card. And Tessellation is only applied when a displacement map is visible. There doesnt exist any other difference between "Medium" and higher settings.



Stop spreading fud. nVidia doesnt cheat with Tessellation.

If there is one poster left on this forum who I can count on knowing what is actually going on, it would be zlatan. Instead of telling him that he's wrong, you might consider rereading his post. I'm not sure what he said is what you read.

Additionally, he wasn't accusing NV of cheating with tesselation. All he said what they might optimize it better in the future.

 

[Carfax83]

If there is one poster left on this forum who I can count on knowing what is actually going on, it would be zlatan. Instead of telling him that he's wrong, you might consider rereading his post. I'm not sure what he said is what you read.

Additionally, he wasn't accusing NV of cheating with tesselation. All he said what they might optimize it better in the future.

Enough with the white knighting already Zlatan can defend himself if he wants to.

And FYI, just because someone says they're a developer, doesn't mean they are. I find it odd to say the least that if Zlatan was a developer, why is he so secretive about it? Plenty of developers post on various forums, including this one. Repi, the DICE lead rendering architect used to post on these forums, and he never hid his identity or who he worked for unlike Zlatan.

I can't say for a fact whether Zlatan is lying about being a developer, but I can say that it's a fact that people lie on the internet all the time about who they are and what they do for a living.

 

[PhonakV30]

Enough with the white knighting already Zlatan can defend himself if he wants to.

And FYI, just because someone says they're a developer, doesn't mean they are. I find it odd to say the least that if Zlatan was a developer, why is he so secretive about it? Plenty of developers post on various forums, including this one. Repi, the DICE lead rendering architect used to post on these forums, and he never hid his identity or who he worked for unlike Zlatan.

I can't say for a fact whether Zlatan is lying about being a developer, but I can say that it's a fact that people lie on the internet all the time about who they are and what they do for a living.

wow! something happened to you.

 

[Carfax83]

wow! something happened to you.

No idea what you're talking about. Nothing has happened to me. I'm just tired of people defending Zlatan like he can't defend himself, and people forgetting that it's practically routine on the internet for people to present themselves as something they're not.

I'm not saying that Zlatan isn't knowledgeable, because he obviously is. But being knowledgeable about tech stuff, and being an actual developer are two different things.

 

[Magee_MC]

Enough with the white knighting already Zlatan can defend himself if he wants to.

And FYI, just because someone says they're a developer, doesn't mean they are. I find it odd to say the least that if Zlatan was a developer, why is he so secretive about it? Plenty of developers post on various forums, including this one. Repi, the DICE lead rendering architect used to post on these forums, and he never hid his identity or who he worked for unlike Zlatan.

I can't say for a fact whether Zlatan is lying about being a developer, but I can say that it's a fact that people lie on the internet all the time about who they are and what they do for a living.

Seriously?!?! I wasn't "white knighting" and zlatan certainly can defend himself if he chooses to. I didn't say that zlatan was a developer, although that has been stated before. What I was referring to is that he consistently posts information that is not known by a lot of the people on the forums, and I haven't seen any examples where the information he posts is dead wrong, seems to have been made up, or appears to be filtered through either red or green goggles.

My point was his posts deserve to be taken seriously, because he has had good information in the past.

 

[Magee_MC]

No idea what you're talking about. Nothing has happened to me. I'm just tired of people defending Zlatan like he can't defend himself, and people forgetting that it's practically routine on the internet for people to present themselves as something they're not.

I'm not saying that Zlatan isn't knowledgeable, because he obviously is. But being knowledgeable about tech stuff, and being an actual developer are two different things.

Agreed. I have no idea who zlatan is and whether he's a developer or not. Anybody can pretend to be anything on the internet. Whoever he is, and whether or not he's a developer, he is knowledgeable, certainly more that I am on the subject. Since this is a technical forum, his posts are at least from my perspective, consistently valuable and positive additions.

 

[guachi]

That video didn't really impress me with the graphics.

 

[moonbogg]

Why would the character say, "My face is tired"? That sounds like a joke from the developers. Was that line supposed to be taken out of the game but got left in? Like the devs were joking with eachother but forgot to change the line?

 

[IllogicalGlory]

No idea what you're talking about. Nothing has happened to me. I'm just tired of people defending Zlatan like he can't defend himself, and people forgetting that it's practically routine on the internet for people to present themselves as something they're not.

I'm not saying that Zlatan isn't knowledgeable, because he obviously is. But being knowledgeable about tech stuff, and being an actual developer are two different things.

Feb 18: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...x-12-benchmarks.2462951/page-23#post-38040357

Feb 24: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10067/ashes-of-the-singularity-revisited-beta

Seems he's more than knowledgeable about hardware, he's also an industry insider.