Mass Effect 3 Demo

[Rage187]

Eh, I'm gonna buy it but this didn't convince me. Actually, if I was on the fence, this might have knocked me off.

You know what really pissed me off? Them pretending that all the shit I went through in the previous two games didn't happen. I mean, how many times did I save the freaking universe and they don't believe that shit happened? WTF, mother fuckers died on the Citadel and nobody believe that it happened?

And what's with this shit of Shepard still answering to Anderson? And Shepard has been stripped of his ship because of some crap that happened? I don't buy it. They are ruining cannon.

Assholes.

 

[RavenSEAL]

ME2 killed the franchise for me.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

OK, first off, it's canon, not cannon.

Secondly, look at this from the viewpoint of the entire rest of the Galaxy. Human colony gets attacked by geth. Shepard blames it on rouge spectre - proves it was rogue spectre working with geth. Rouge specter and geth attack citadel, along with one big spaceship which actually kind of looked like a geth ship. Shepard stops attack, saves galaxy.

Then Shepard starts going on about how "No, it wasn't a rogue spectre and geth, it was an ancient race of doomsday machines and that giant ship could talk." and then wonders why everyone is looking at him funny. Goes off into space on patrol and gets himself blown up.

2 years later he reappears, despite being dead, and now he's working with a known terrorist group with a well deserved unsavory reputation. Flies around in the fringe regions of space, still going on about the pending invasion of talking, world eating space ships.

He's spotted in numerous places, and everywhere he shows up he's somehow shooting at something. The whole time, he's on about how the talking spaceships have a race of bugmen servants who pop in through an unpassable mass relay and abduct entire colonies for no apparent reason. Maybe at some point he even mentions in passing that the bugmen used to be the advanced ancient race that has ruins everywhere. He goes and blows stuff up on the edge of space for a while, ranting the whole time.

The alliance basically leaves him alone until Admiral Hacket asks him for one favor - go rescue a scientist from Batarian space. And the next thing they know he's managed to blow up the entire planet, full of Batarian civilians.

The fact that all that happened to him was getting stripped of rank is what's actually hard to believe. The Batarians hated our guts to begin with. And now, a rogue terrorist who rants like a lunatic about talking evil spaceships has blown up a large civilian population - and we didn't even throw him in the brig. If the Reapers hadn't shown up, you can bet your ass there was gonna be another war with the Batarians over that one.

 

[Rage187]

I still call BS. There should be footage of damn near everything that has happened on the citadel and readings and such from the Normandy to backup all of Shepard's claims. Plus, what about my team? Everyone can think I'm lying but if they talked to my team and they tell the exact same story? shenanigans...

 

[DrunkenSano]

Footage can be doctored, team members are cult members of the fanatic.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

I still call BS. There should be footage of damn near everything that has happened on the citadel and readings and such from the Normandy to backup all of Shepard's claims. Plus, what about my team? Everyone can think I'm lying but if they talked to my team and they tell the exact same story? shenanigans...

Did you not got to the citadel in ME2 and talk to Anderson and the Council? All this was addressed in game.

 

[Sonikku]

If you've saved the council, saved the citadel and made such a grand impression in the eyes of the alliance that they use you as recruitment propaganda advertising I think they should give the benefit of the doubt. Evil talking space ships hell bent on taking over the galaxy? Sometimes there comes a point where something said is too far out to not be true.

As an aside, I find it ironic that the Reapers want Shepherd's genetic material so extremely bad when in the end, only Miranda got it.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

My biggest concern is that the first half of the demo had a genuine sense of urgency, something has to be done and fast because based on the number of Reapers that landed just in the vicinity of how far you can see in the distance in the demo, Earth is getting decimated and quickly. Then the second half of the demo, it's, "Doo dee doo, gotta go do this thing just like the things I did in ME1 and 2, over and over again to gain allegiance from these people who you gained allegiance from before anyway."

I know it's an RPG (well, kind of), and you need to have the gamey missions to make it last 30-40 hours or people will freak out, but I'm just hoping you don't only see Earth 2 times in the game, at the beginning and then again at the end. That would be truly disappointing for me.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

If you've saved the council, saved the citadel and made such a grand impression in the eyes of the alliance that they use you as recruitment propaganda advertising I think they should give the benefit of the doubt. Evil talking space ships hell bent on taking over the galaxy? Sometimes there comes a point where something said is too far out to not be true.

As an aside, I find it ironic that the Reapers want Shepherd's genetic material so extremely bad when in the end, only Miranda got it.

They do give you the benefit of the doubt. He gets bucket of leeway.

But he's asking for every fleet, every ship, and every soldier in the entire galaxy.

It don't matter how valuable your word of honor is, it ain't gonna buy that.

 

[American Gunner]

My biggest concern is that the first half of the demo had a genuine sense of urgency, something has to be done and fast because based on the number of Reapers that landed just in the vicinity of how far you can see in the distance in the demo, Earth is getting decimated and quickly. Then the second half of the demo, it's, "Doo dee doo, gotta go do this thing just like the things I did in ME1 and 2, over and over again to gain allegiance from these people who you gained allegiance from before anyway."

I haven't played the demo, but I would think that people will be skeptical because Sheperd had joined Cerberus in ME2. Maybe that has something to do with the mission structure.

 

[dougp]

As an aside, I find it ironic that the Reapers want Shepherd's genetic material so extremely bad when in the end, only Miranda got it.

I don't know why, but this really made me laugh.

 

[TecHNooB]

OK, first off, it's canon, not cannon.

Secondly, look at this from the viewpoint of the entire rest of the Galaxy. Human colony gets attacked by geth. Shepard blames it on rouge spectre - proves it was rogue spectre working with geth. Rouge specter and geth attack citadel, along with one big spaceship which actually kind of looked like a geth ship. Shepard stops attack, saves galaxy.

Then Shepard starts going on about how "No, it wasn't a rogue spectre and geth, it was an ancient race of doomsday machines and that giant ship could talk." and then wonders why everyone is looking at him funny. Goes off into space on patrol and gets himself blown up.

2 years later he reappears, despite being dead, and now he's working with a known terrorist group with a well deserved unsavory reputation. Flies around in the fringe regions of space, still going on about the pending invasion of talking, world eating space ships.

He's spotted in numerous places, and everywhere he shows up he's somehow shooting at something. The whole time, he's on about how the talking spaceships have a race of bugmen servants who pop in through an unpassable mass relay and abduct entire colonies for no apparent reason. Maybe at some point he even mentions in passing that the bugmen used to be the advanced ancient race that has ruins everywhere. He goes and blows stuff up on the edge of space for a while, ranting the whole time.

The alliance basically leaves him alone until Admiral Hacket asks him for one favor - go rescue a scientist from Batarian space. And the next thing they know he's managed to blow up the entire planet, full of Batarian civilians.

The fact that all that happened to him was getting stripped of rank is what's actually hard to believe. The Batarians hated our guts to begin with. And now, a rogue terrorist who rants like a lunatic about talking evil spaceships has blown up a large civilian population - and we didn't even throw him in the brig. If the Reapers hadn't shown up, you can bet your ass there was gonna be another war with the Batarians over that one.

first off, it's rogue.

































































yup

 

[BD2003]

One thing I thought was really off putting was that no one seemingly returned from me2, but tons do from me1. I know it's kind of hard to write them into a story when everyone could have potentially died in the final mission...so maybe next time don't write stories where everyone can die? It's just a cheap gimmick. Who cares it they live or die anyway, if it doesn't matter either way?

Also, the facial animation is now looking pretty awful compared to some other stuff out there.

 

[American Gunner]

One thing I thought was really off putting was that no one seemingly returned from me2, but tons do from me1. I know it's kind of hard to write them into a story when everyone could have potentially died in the final mission...so maybe next time don't write stories where everyone can die? It's just a cheap gimmick. Who cares it they live or die anyway, if it doesn't matter either way?

Also, the facial animation is now looking pretty awful compared to some other stuff out there.

Well, the demo was a whole thirty minutes, so I am sure there is a chance that you will see more characters in the final game.

 

[Rage187]

One thing I thought was really off putting was that no one seemingly returned from me2, but tons do from me1. I know it's kind of hard to write them into a story when everyone could have potentially died in the final mission...so maybe next time don't write stories where everyone can die? It's just a cheap gimmick. Who cares it they live or die anyway, if it doesn't matter either way?

Also, the facial animation is now looking pretty awful compared to some other stuff out there.

really good points. I had all my team members survive and expected to see them throughout the game. I'm sure you will but it will be just shitty little missions and not part of the main story.

and yes, the facial animations not matching the actual audio was very obvious. and after seeing what could be done in LA Noire, I expect more.

 

[BD2003]

Well, the demo was a whole thirty minutes, so I am sure there is a chance that you will see more characters in the final game.

In those thirty minutes you saw four me1 playable characters return, and one new one. Not much room left.

 

[American Gunner]

In those thirty minutes you saw four me1 playable characters return, and one new one. Not much room left.

Yeah, because you only had 5 total team members in ME2...

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

Well, the "difficult writing stories for characters who might be dead" thing is not confined to ME2 characters. Of the ME1 squadmates, the only one we can say for sure isn't dead is Liara. Besides Shepard, she is the only playable character from either game who's guaranteed to be alive.

The demo should actually set your mind at ease about this - the second mission included three important characters from the previous games who might be dead (Wrex, Mordin, Garrus) plus a minor character who might be dead (Kirrahe).

Additionally, we know for sure that at the very least Miranda and Samara are both in game, as you can see both in the Femshep trailer.

 

[BD2003]

I suppose that's true...wrex and garrus could equally have died in me2. Wonder what happens to that wrex mission if he didn't make it past me1.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

He probably gets replaced by Wreav - that's who replaces him in ME2 if he's already dead.

 

[BD2003]

Kind of undermines the whole point of them living or dying if they're so easily replaced. The whole samara/morinth thing also equally pointless.

 

[Necc]

I always asked my self whats the point if wrex is replaced by wreve same as morinth vs samara, the story doesn't change. so if you don't really care about the characters just pick the one that has the most useful power (imo samara powers are far better then morinth). I hope bioware made more effort in ME3 story if you saved your squadmates in ME2, not replacing X by Y.

 

[chalmers]

My buddies are getting this and I've never played any of them besides 1 for a few minutes. I downloaded the ME3 demo to see what all the fuss was about and played thru it...it seemed alright I guess. Are all the characters always so robotic in their movement and mannerisms? I guess perhaps my problem is I've never enjoyed space games. I don't like Halo, can't seem to get into Mass Effect, don't like Star Wars/Trek...etc. I've always been more into games with real guns or at least bullets instead of laser beams.

I just feel like I'm missing out on a good series which is a crappy feeling.

 

[Necc]

My buddies are getting this and I've never played any of them besides 1 for a few minutes. I downloaded the ME3 demo to see what all the fuss was about and played thru it...it seemed alright I guess. Are all the characters always so robotic in their movement and mannerisms? I guess perhaps my problem is I've never enjoyed space games. I don't like Halo, can't seem to get into Mass Effect, don't like Star Wars/Trek...etc. I've always been more into games with real guns or at least bullets instead of laser beams.

I just feel like I'm missing out on a good series which is a crappy feeling.

Just ignore these faults and enjoy the story as it is, I played the 2nd one first and never thought I'd love this series so much.

 

[digiram]

Tried out the demo over the weekend, and I gotta say.. I'm quite impressed. The visuals look really nice and gun battles feel really good as well.