Mass Effect 3 debut trailer

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Fenixgoon

Fenixgoon

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looks pretty good. leaves me asking one question based on events in ME2 though:

how are they going to address imported games where shepherd dies at the end? (i lived, booya suckas)
 
Bateluer

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Fenixgoon said:
how are they going to address imported games where shepherd dies at the end? (i lived, booya suckas)
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Thats a good question.
I also want to bring some of my shipmates from the first game in on the mission. Needs more character interaction, more subplots involving them.
 
frostedflakes

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Fenixgoon said:
looks pretty good. leaves me asking one question based on events in ME2 though:

how are they going to address imported games where shepherd dies at the end? (i lived, booya suckas)
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I think this has already been addressed. If your Shepherd dies, the game can't be imported.
 
Bateluer

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leonlee said:
I hope there aren't any loyalty missions in ME3.
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Doesn't have to be loyalty missions, but there should be subplots and missions that center around squadmates. Taking those out of the game basically reduces your team members to hired guns. I'd say pack mule, but I'm going to guess that the inventory won't be making a return in ME3.
 
NikolaeVarius

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I don't get it. How did the Reapers get to Earth.

The ENTIRE point of ME1 was stopping them from accessing the Citadel Jump Drive which was their ONLY way to get to Earth in the time period. Was ME 1 completely pointless then? Why does a race of immortal demigods even care about FTL travel when they can essentially just drift to the galaxy without care for resources or time really.

How the hell are they going to justify stopping the entire Reaper fleet when a single reaper + a couple of Geth was collectively kicking the ass of most of the Alliance fleet. Are they going to go the route of Stargate Sg1 where they get a laser cannon that can rape Reaper ships in a single blow when 30 hours ago Reaper ships were invincible?

Also, why are the Reapers on the ground anyway, an advanced race of space gods can't efficiently kill/reap a world that has a ridiculous large population denisty from space? Drop a couple of futuristic TPK devices. Only 7 million dead people on day 1? Give me a couple of nukes and I can do better than that.


frostedflakes said:
I think this has already been addressed. If your Shepherd dies, the game can't be imported.
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I'm pretty sure ME2 says that no matter what outcome, you can import you save
 
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StinkyPinky

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That 7 million figure does seem really low. Unless the invasion is currently only focused on the UK (as seen in the trailer). But that doesn't make sense as beings so advanced should have resources to invade a large chunk of the planet at once.
 
NikolaeVarius

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StinkyPinky said:
That 7 million figure does seem really low. Unless the invasion is currently only focused on the UK (as seen in the trailer). But that doesn't make sense as beings so advanced should have resources to invade a large chunk of the planet at once.
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I'm 99% sure 7 million was just London alone, but even then that's a very very low number for a species that purportedly can take over entire galaxies easily and when cities are supposed to be massively overpopulated.
 
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tenshodo13 said:
I don't get it. How did the Reapers get to Earth.

The ENTIRE point of ME1 was stopping them from accessing the Citadel Jump Drive which was their ONLY way to get to Earth in the time period. Was ME 1 completely pointless then? Why does a race of immortal demigods even care about FTL travel when they can essentially just drift to the galaxy without care for resources or time really.

How the hell are they going to justify stopping the entire Reaper fleet when a single reaper + a couple of Geth was collectively kicking the ass of most of the Alliance fleet. Are they going to go the route of Stargate Sg1 where they get a laser cannon that can rape Reaper ships in a single blow when 30 hours ago Reaper ships were invincible?

Also, why are the Reapers on the ground anyway, an advanced race of space gods can't efficiently kill/reap a world that has a ridiculous large population denisty from space? Drop a couple of futuristic TPK devices. Only 7 million dead people on day 1? Give me a couple of nukes and I can do better than that.





I'm pretty sure ME2 says that no matter what outcome, you can import you save
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They might not be just killing humans, but trying to collect them for the same reason as in ME2. Could be why they're on the ground instead of just nuking it from orbit. Or it's just a cool trailer meant to build excitement for the game wasn't meant to be picked apart and overanalyzed. :p

Also, Bioware has confirmed it. You won't be able to import the save into ME3 if Shepard dies.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...to-import-your-mass-effect-2-save-to-me3.aspx
 
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NikolaeVarius

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Zenoth

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That's what happens when you have a new writer taking over from ME2, a writer who admits he uses Mass Effect Wiki to have more information about the ME's universe. I for one did want to "see" the Earth in ME3, but I would have never expected the story to take such a predictable and generic turn of events... oh, what's that? The Earth is under attack, that's like... the most... amazing thing ever, it's not like it was done before, so it will be good because, hey, it's "Mass Effect".

Give me a break. I remember at some point in Mass Effect 2 when there is an allusion that the Reapers might be intended to attack Earth, but then when the line was spoken by one of your teammate I thought to myself: «Yeah but BioWare won't go that low, the Reapers don't need to attack the Earth, they need to attack every single planet on which resides organic life, why would BioWare focus an entire title around the events of a single planet, be it Earth or not... nah, they won't do that.» and then I resumed on.

But, oh wait! They MIGHT give us a "choice", either let the Earth get owned and most of humanity's main resources go down the drain with it, or save Earth BUT let other alien worlds get beat up in return... ooooooooh, there, I gave BioWare an excuse to bring an Earth invasion by the Reapers in the first place, wrenching choices for the win.

The trailer for ME2 was a million times more promising than this.
 
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BD231

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Why so much hate for the tactical assist title Zenoth? Clearly human beings are considered aliens too so I see no difference. It will make for more action and less pissing around the galxy collecting resource's and jumping demensions like some star trek re-run.

I for one am all for it, the more action the better.
 
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Zenoth said:
But, oh wait! They MIGHT give us a "choice", either let the Earth get owned and most of humanity's main resources go down the drain with it, or save Earth BUT let other alien worlds get beat up in return... ooooooooh, there, I gave BioWare an excuse to bring an Earth invasion by the Reapers in the first place, wrenching choices for the win.
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I really hope and believe that Bioware is more creative than that. However, I'm sure a choice of this sort be part of the game...it's just a matter of how big of a part. I believe the first trailer of ME2 depicted the bleakest scenario and that this is a similar sort of thing, that is to say that Reapers might not necessarily reach/destroy Earth.

What might be cool is Shepard going around the Galaxy organizing the defenses of the various races as the Reapers are beginning their incursion. The only thing is that Shepard can't be everywhere at once and the Reapers are coming in from multiple directions, so you'll have to pick which systems to defend. Which systems get overrun will depend on the layout of the Mass Relay network, the allies you made in previous games, and where you aren't. If you don't strategize well and/or if you pissed off/killed everybody in the previous games then the Reapers will hit Earth.

Or I could be completely wrong. Either way I hope the story kicks ass and leaves ME fans 100% satisfied.
 
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Zenoth said:
That's what happens when you have a new writer taking over from ME2, a writer who admits he uses Mass Effect Wiki to have more information about the ME's universe. I for one did want to "see" the Earth in ME3, but I would have never expected the story to take such a predictable and generic turn of events... oh, what's that? The Earth is under attack, that's like... the most... amazing thing ever, it's not like it was done before, so it will be good because, hey, it's "Mass Effect".

Give me a break. I remember at some point in Mass Effect 2 when there is an allusion that the Reapers might be intended to attack Earth, but then when the line was spoken by one of your teammate I thought to myself: «Yeah but BioWare won't go that low, the Reapers don't need to attack the Earth, they need to attack every single planet on which resides organic life, why would BioWare focus an entire title around the events of a single planet, be it Earth or not... nah, they won't do that.» and then I resumed on.

But, oh wait! They MIGHT give us a "choice", either let the Earth get owned and most of humanity's main resources go down the drain with it, or save Earth BUT let other alien worlds get beat up in return... ooooooooh, there, I gave BioWare an excuse to bring an Earth invasion by the Reapers in the first place, wrenching choices for the win.

The trailer for ME2 was a million times more promising than this.
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It could be set up as a ploy: A ploy by the Reapers to draw in their bete noire, Shephard. Or a ploy by Shephard to draw in the Reapers.

Or it could be more than that! It could be a ploy by Bioware to draw in more money!
 
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Eh, I think it looks pretty sweet. Bioware hasn't disappointed me yet - though there is always the possibility considering they are part of EA.
 
PhatoseAlpha

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Far too human-centeric. ME's gone from a universe where humanity is one race in a big galaxy, and not the focus of the entire universe. Then you get ME2 and the whole 'oh human are soooo special on a genetic level', and now the grand master galaxy eaters are snacking on earth instead of the whole galaxy.

This is like selling us on Cthulu showing up for two games, and in the third he does nothing but attack a single wal-mart.
 
Bateluer

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Recall all the same speculation when the ME2 trailer first came out, showing Shepard as deceased and the Geth wearing the N7 armor? Bioware is just teasing us.

Seems like the Reapers wouldn't bother attacking Earth from the ground, unless they wanted to steal bodies to 'process'. But, it also seemed like it was a dumb idea to kill Shepard.

We won't know until the game comes out and we've played through the story.
 
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Or the reapers are just pissed off at Shepard for destroying the hybrid and so go off to Earth to a)make it mean something to Shepard b)draw shepard there. Either way I'll save verdict when we actually know something about the plot.
 
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