Once people realize that just because you're not out calling them slurs and saying they should not be in your country, you can absolutely still be pushing for things that result in actual racism (which again is not just the overt hatred spouted by few).
Literal segregation is actually happening in this country (and its not just in the South either) and it is growing. Its not called that (for very obvious reasons, although since many of the things setup by the Civil Rights Movement to address some of these issue, that actually were making progress in helping to improve these things, have been struck down so it frankly is probably just a matter of time before they drop all pretense about it), but it absolutely is happening (there's a good Frontline episode that covers one of the ways this is being accomplished, via creating townships to create new school districts for instance; its also a major reason for the rise in charter schools).
But you're not interested in discussing how outright racist policies (redlining for instance, which is why many cities to this day still show fairly segregated populations) helped create these situations and that just because you get rid of the overt methods, it won't magically fix the issue overnight, or even within decades, especially if you don't much to actually address the underlying issues. And you're outright delusional if you think race has nothing to do with it.
And that's the rub. People say they it shouldn't be about race, but look at this thread and look how people immediately reacted. People joked about it being racist, and the serious posts are trying to act like race has nothing at all to do with it (dismissing the long history that absolutely plays a role in the economic conditions that people act like welfare - which they heavily imply goes to a certain race despite the truth being that most welfare recipients are not that race - is the sole cause of).
The problem is that, white people see that they are being afflicted in many of the same ways, and thus think their grievances are being lessened by pointing out how in spite of the literal battles fought over race, it still is making it very difficult for certain races to make real progress. And likewise, just because progress has been made, people don't want to accept that there's still a chasm that needs to be overcome. The worst part is that they don't see how addressing it for other races can also help to address it for themselves, and stop supporting the people that are perpetrating it (and the really baffling part is they can absolutely see this as you see them talk about how politicians let corporations dictate things, and then they keep voting in people that are so blatantly doing that, ones that outright campaign on how they're going to help corporations and tout trickle-down-economics in everything but name because of what a total complete failure that is yet people just hear "less taxes" and don't see what is actually being done).
[Note, I'm not saying that they should be supporting Democrats or liberals either as many of them are no better, they just need to see that the people they are voting in are selling them out - unfortunately many of them in wanting to do that effectively pushed in even worse ones, so called "fiscal conservatives" that are really just corporate shills or even worse a President that epitomizes all the things they claim they hate. And so we'll keep making the same mistakes (as we have for decades). People need to start noticing the odd coincidence where Presidents that push trickle-down-economic models leaves us with what far too consistently gets called "the worst recession since the Great Depression" and how that keeps setting us back.]
I knew plenty of people that went to schools like that and they acted out far more because of it. They also tended to turn into far more abusive people as they got older (either self-abusive via drugs/alcohol, or abusive to others). And in spite of all the promises they made they turned out exactly like the people they claimed they wouldn't be like, after their mid 20s suddenly believing that the abuse molded them into a perfect model adult, by golly if only they'd been getting worse beatings for longer then they'd have really made something of themselves! So goddamnit why can't their kid just straighten the hell up, spoiled new generation!
Oh they're getting slapped around by a merciless invisible hand. Its not any Christian God though.
You do realize it has been scientifically shown that doing that has negative impact on people's psychology, right? As in, it fucks up people into adulthood (higher rates of mental illness has been shown for instance).
But these damn Millenials! They've ruined everything! And PC culture! And see racist stereotypes exist for a reason! Here, let me tell you about how I was beaten as a kid and I turned out totally fine, so see these kids just need a good ass kicking and that'll solve everything! I totally never acted like this as a kid (but hey I'll tell all the stories of the crazy shit we used to do that you can't do now because its so unsafe or we'd get in trouble for harmless pranks now! Did I mention I don't understand irony?) Also here let me tell you a personal story (anecdotes > all) about how black people are the most racist now because they're doing reverse racism!
Let's pretend like we know the perfect answer without knowing the situation at hand. We'll proselytize about all manner of things, especially things we explicitly claimed have nothing to do with this (its weird how people say its others injecting race yet they're the ones immediately joking about it, trying to dismiss that the racial situation has any involvement by dismissing how it directly impacts the things they blame for it, or offering up their own personal anecdotes about how racial stereotypes hold true, right? nah...), we'll act like things are both far more complex than they are but then act like those have simple solutions (and completely ignore that there's some complexity but its hardly beyond addressable, and will have a somewhat complex solution, that might not work as well as expected but that is hardly an out and out failure).
And how many of those same people bitch about how you can't trust the media because they just push an agenda? Yet, on just about every topic they immediately jump to conclusions and do exactly all of the things they complain incessantly about?
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