"Marine Corps Snipers Aim to Strike Fear"

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
Man, back in the days of WW1, we (Canadians) had one of the baddest ass militaries in the world. 1/3 of the nation's budget went to the military. Our country was and is still full of stupid politicians. To elaborate upon my main point (our military), if it wasn't for Diefenbaker, we would have the Avro CF-105 Arrow. The Mk.2 Arrow (RL-206 if you watched the movie), was supposedly faster than a Mig-25 Foxbat. According to The Guiness Book of World Records, the Mig-25 is the fastest plane in the world. I might say the x-15 is (or whatever) but that uses rockets. If it wasn't for Mackenzie King, we would still have the CAR (the Canadian Airborne Regiment). And, oh ya, it has been said the the West Edmonton Mall has more submarines than the Canadian Navy.

And about us having good snipers, I once read that two of them in Afghanistan, once saved a company of the American's 101st Airborne Division. A little while after that, I read that a few of our snipers in Afghanistan were almost killed by an Apache's gunfire. Somehow, the pilots spotted them just in time...

Whatever, just something to think about.

The SR71 has been the fastest air-breather for about 40 years now.

New York to London in less than 2 hours
The Blackbird is an engineering marvel.

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
Man, back in the days of WW1, we (Canadians) had one of the baddest ass militaries in the world. 1/3 of the nation's budget went to the military. Our country was and is still full of stupid politicians. To elaborate upon my main point (our military), if it wasn't for Diefenbaker, we would have the Avro CF-105 Arrow. The Mk.2 Arrow (RL-206 if you watched the movie), was supposedly faster than a Mig-25 Foxbat. According to The Guiness Book of World Records, the Mig-25 is the fastest plane in the world. I might say the x-15 is (or whatever) but that uses rockets. If it wasn't for Mackenzie King, we would still have the CAR (the Canadian Airborne Regiment). And, oh ya, it has been said the the West Edmonton Mall has more submarines than the Canadian Navy.

And about us having good snipers, I once read that two of them in Afghanistan, once saved a company of the American's 101st Airborne Division. A little while after that, I read that a few of our snipers in Afghanistan were almost killed by an Apache's gunfire. Somehow, the pilots spotted them just in time...

Whatever, just something to think about.

The SR71 has been the fastest air-breather for about 40 years now.

New York to London in less than 2 hours
The Blackbird is an engineering marvel.

Interesting thread

Fastest aircrafts in the world

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
Man, back in the days of WW1, we (Canadians) had one of the baddest ass militaries in the world. 1/3 of the nation's budget went to the military. Our country was and is still full of stupid politicians. To elaborate upon my main point (our military), if it wasn't for Diefenbaker, we would have the Avro CF-105 Arrow. The Mk.2 Arrow (RL-206 if you watched the movie), was supposedly faster than a Mig-25 Foxbat. According to The Guiness Book of World Records, the Mig-25 is the fastest plane in the world. I might say the x-15 is (or whatever) but that uses rockets. If it wasn't for Mackenzie King, we would still have the CAR (the Canadian Airborne Regiment). And, oh ya, it has been said the the West Edmonton Mall has more submarines than the Canadian Navy.

And about us having good snipers, I once read that two of them in Afghanistan, once saved a company of the American's 101st Airborne Division. A little while after that, I read that a few of our snipers in Afghanistan were almost killed by an Apache's gunfire. Somehow, the pilots spotted them just in time...

Whatever, just something to think about.

The SR71 has been the fastest air-breather for about 40 years now.

Fasted PUBLICLY acknowledged. 🙂 We know not what lays in the skunk works of various nation-states.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: rahvin
Fasted PUBLICLY acknowledged. 🙂 We know not what lays in the skunk works of various nation-states.

Besides the US and Russia I dont think anyone would be interested in footing the bill to go that fast. And the Ruskies cant afford to buy gas right now, so that pretty much leaves whatever they're playing with in the S.W. USA.

 

[BuckNaked]

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
Man, back in the days of WW1, we (Canadians) had one of the baddest ass militaries in the world. 1/3 of the nation's budget went to the military. Our country was and is still full of stupid politicians. To elaborate upon my main point (our military), if it wasn't for Diefenbaker, we would have the Avro CF-105 Arrow. The Mk.2 Arrow (RL-206 if you watched the movie), was supposedly faster than a Mig-25 Foxbat. According to The Guiness Book of World Records, the Mig-25 is the fastest plane in the world. I might say the x-15 is (or whatever) but that uses rockets. If it wasn't for Mackenzie King, we would still have the CAR (the Canadian Airborne Regiment). And, oh ya, it has been said the the West Edmonton Mall has more submarines than the Canadian Navy.

And about us having good snipers, I once read that two of them in Afghanistan, once saved a company of the American's 101st Airborne Division. A little while after that, I read that a few of our snipers in Afghanistan were almost killed by an Apache's gunfire. Somehow, the pilots spotted them just in time...

Whatever, just something to think about.

Some of Canada's military support... Link
including this

Operation ANACONDA: During March 2002, members of the 3 PPCLI Battle Group were in the mountains of Paktia Province east of Gardez on Op ANACONDA, a U.S.-led coalition effort to search the mountains for Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters, capture them, and destroy their shelters. The Canadian contingent comprised 16 soldiers, including six snipers and an emergency extraction force of medical, security and transport personnel with vehicles specialized for winter operations. These soldiers came under fire and engaged the enemy; as a result, some Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters were killed. The coalition force met with determined resistance, and the enemy demonstrated that they were well organized and well supplied. Throughout Op ANACONDA, the Canadian sniper teams were noted for the deadly accuracy with which they suppressed enemy mortar and heavy machine-gun positions. They are credited with preventing or stopping attacks that could have taken the lives of many coalition soldiers.

And from my understanding, the bold text is somewhat understates the support the Canadians gave US troops...

Another link, although I don't know how credible the source is...
link

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Rudee
The most famous USMC sniper was a fellow by the name of Carlos Hathcock, who was once credited with a kill of a NVA solder at a range of 2500 yards. (25 football field lengths!) He ended up with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

Mr. Hathcock's story.

And a continuation of his story.

I read the books coming away extremely impressed with the man. And that is an understatement.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: Ornery
US snipers shoot anything that moves

• The Iraqi city of Fallujah has been besieged by the US military since four Americans were killed there and their bodies mutilated. Since the US offensive began, JO WILDING has been one of the few Westerners who has braved the bullets to deliver medical supplies to the city. Here she tells her disturbing tale of the bloody horror taking place there.

I read most of the article.

None of this would have happened if they hadn't dragged those contractors through the road, and lynched them on camera. Fallujah needed to happen if it's going to prove that we're not leaving. I don't think we should be in there, and I don't plan on voting for GWB, but the people of fallujah brought this on themselves.

Exactly.

Boo hoo. I have no sympathy for them.

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Rudee
The most famous USMC sniper was a fellow by the name of Carlos Hathcock, who was once credited with a kill of a NVA solder at a range of 2500 yards. (25 football field lengths!) He ended up with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

Mr. Hathcock's story.

And a continuation of his story.

I read the books coming away extremely impressed with the man. And that is an understatement.

Yeah, I read the book Marine Sniper as well. Very good read indeed.

 

[Kenazo]

Sometimes a guy will go down, and I'll let him scream a bit to destroy the morale of his buddies," said the Marine corporal. "Then I'll use a second shot."

There is a line not to give the media to play with.

Anyway, in regards to our Canadian Snipers:

May 06, 2002
Canadian Sniper Offered Medal by U.S., Court-Marial by Canada

The United States military wants to give Master Cpl. Arron Perry a Bronze Star.

The Canadian military wants him court-martialed.

The Americans want to give him a bronze star along with four other Canadian snipers, for their role in several exceedingly dangerous missions where they operated with distinction, exposing themselves to live fire to achieve objectives, and saving a number of American soldiers. Among their achievements is the longest confirmed sniper kill in combat history, at 2430 meters (about a mile and a half), breaking the previous record held by legendary sniper Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam.

The Canadians want to court-martial him because a Chaplain overheard him say, "F*ck Him" while pointing in the general direction of the Chaplain after a stress debriefing.

I was going to make a pithy comment about all this, but words fail me. All I know is, if I run into Master Cpl. Perry in one of the local watering holes (he's from my neighborhood), I'm going to buy him a beer or two.

From here

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
Among their achievements is the longest confirmed sniper kill in combat history, at 2430 meters (about a mile and a half), breaking the previous record held by legendary sniper Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam.

2430 meters. Good God! What kind of optics were the snipers using? That must be something relatively new

 

[Mookow]

"Marine Corps Snipers Aim to Strike Fear"

Now, it might just be me, but I think in general USMC snipers dont aim to send out invitations to tea parties.

 

[SneakyStuff]

That's one thing the news DOESN'T show you, it's not like we are defenseless over there 😛

 

[zillafurby]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Rudee
The most famous USMC sniper was a fellow by the name of Carlos Hathcock, who was once credited with a kill of a NVA solder at a range of 2500 yards. (25 football field lengths!) He ended up with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

Mr. Hathcock's story.

And a continuation of his story.

I read the books coming away extremely impressed with the man. And that is an understatement.

dead center is good as well

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: Kenazo
Among their achievements is the longest confirmed sniper kill in combat history, at 2430 meters (about a mile and a half), breaking the previous record held by legendary sniper Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam.

2430 meters. Good God! What kind of optics were the snipers using? That must be something relatively new

THe optics are probably nothing special compared to the rifle itself.....imagine how powerful and accurate that damn thing is....😕

 

[Acanthus]

A USMC sniper wouldnt have hit him in the leg.

Nor would the US military target civillians.

The Canadian military overall is small, but they are rediculously well trained. Very very elite forces indeed.

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
A USMC sniper wouldnt have hit him in the leg.

Nor would the US military target civillians.

The Canadian military overall is small, but they are rediculously well trained. Very very elite forces indeed.

What we lack in numbers, we make up for in training. 🙂 A few years ago a group of our CF-18's beat out the competition to win that William Tell 1996 competition, and from what I understand they were up against some of the world's best.

The top finishers were:
Top Team: 4th Wing, Canadian Forces Base Cold Lake, Alberta
Top operations: Canadian Forces
Top Gun: Capt. Steve Nierlich (Canadian Forces)
Top element: Canadian Forces
Top maintenance team: Air Force Reserve
Top maintenance element: 35th Fighter Wing, Misawa AB, Japan (PACAF)
Top weapons load: Air National Guard
Top weapons load element: 33rd Fighter Wing, Eglin AFB, Fla. (ACC)
Top weapons director team: Canadian Forces
Top scope: Staff Sgt. Jeff Craver (Canadian Forces)

here

 

[her209]

The North Koreans are suffering. Liberate them.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: Ornery
US snipers shoot anything that moves

• The Iraqi city of Fallujah has been besieged by the US military since four Americans were killed there and their bodies mutilated. Since the US offensive began, JO WILDING has been one of the few Westerners who has braved the bullets to deliver medical supplies to the city. Here she tells her disturbing tale of the bloody horror taking place there.

I read most of the article.

None of this would have happened if they hadn't dragged those contractors through the road, and lynched them on camera. Fallujah needed to happen if it's going to prove that we're not leaving. I don't think we should be in there, and I don't plan on voting for GWB, but the people of fallujah brought this on themselves.

Exactly.

Boo hoo. I have no sympathy for them.

That worked real well in Chechnya.

Just because we kill civilians, doesn't mean we are not leaving.

 

Originally posted by: Rudee
The most famous USMC sniper was a fellow by the name of Carlos Hathcock, who was once credited with a kill of a NVA solder at a range of 2500 yards. (25 football field lengths!) He ended up with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

Incorrect. I believe the most famous one is Lee Harvey Oswald. 😛

 

[Brutuskend]

That's weird, I just watched a show on the History Channel yesterday about snipers.

The people being hit, must just assume they are Marine snipers, because that's who's there. They would NEVER see them.

 

[suklee]

Nice read, thanks for the article Buck_Naked.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Rudee
The most famous USMC sniper was a fellow by the name of Carlos Hathcock, who was once credited with a kill of a NVA solder at a range of 2500 yards. (25 football field lengths!) He ended up with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

Incorrect. I believe the most famous one is Lee Harvey Oswald. 😛

He wasnt an official USMC sniper though.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
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Originally posted by: Rudee
The most famous USMC sniper was a fellow by the name of Carlos Hathcock, who was once credited with a kill of a NVA solder at a range of 2500 yards. (25 football field lengths!) He ended up with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

Incorrect. I believe the most famous one is Lee Harvey Oswald. 😛[/quote]
LHO was not the one who fired the fatal shot.
Please check your "facts" before spreading more disinformation.
LHO was the fall guy, set up to remove the blame from the real criminals, U.S. Organized crime and the French Hit men sent to do their dirty work.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Snipers rule 🙂 I was at a friend's house watching the Discovery Channel and they had another military series going on (saw one over SEAL Hell Week during Christmas) - this time it was on the Army Sniper Training School (all the recruits were at least Rangers or Airborne) - there was a lot more to sniping than I had thought. Makes you really appreciate the skill it takes to accurate hit and kill someone from a distance.

 

[StageLeft]

War is nasty. I read in Times also that if you're in fallujah in the street outside of curfew you can count on getting shot at. The marines just assume that anybody outside at that point is an enemy.