March Job Growth Strongest in 4 Years

[Soulkeeper]

i want a job hehe

 

[conjur]

Stock Market sure is rather flat today given that "incredible" news on Friday.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
Stock Market sure is rather flat today given that "incredible" news on Friday.

I fail to see how this is bad.

CkG

 

[conjur]

Reading problems again, eh, CkG?

Flat <> bad

I said the stock market is flat.


DJIA 10,481.00  ^10.40

Nasdaq 2,062.54  ^5.37

S&P 500 1,143.34  ^1.53

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
Reading problems again, eh, CkG?

Flat <> bad

I said the stock market is flat.


DJIA 10,481.00  ^10.40

Nasdaq 2,062.54  ^5.37

S&P 500 1,143.34  ^1.53

Link clicking problems today conjur? Where is the bad in the link?

Oh that's right - you must expect TWO days of starting almost 100 up.

CkG

 

[conjur]

Hunh? Bad?

WTF are you talking about CkG? I never said anything about bad.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
Hunh? Bad?

WTF are you talking about CkG? I never said anything about bad.

Like I said - "I fail to see how this is bad" - then you were supposed to click the link. You'd see that on Friday the market started up by about 100 points. So my question was - how is that bad? You then stated(asked) if I had a reading problem - so was my link bad like I originally asked?

CkG

 

[Jeff7181]

Figures don't lie, but liars will figure.

You can say unemployment is high... you can say the economy sucks... you can say the stock market sucks... you can even provide numbers to back up these claims. But liars will figure. If it's true that everything is so bad right now, please explain why my grandfather made nearly 150% last year in the stock market.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Hunh? Bad?

WTF are you talking about CkG? I never said anything about bad.

Like I said - "I fail to see how this is bad" - then you were supposed to click the link. You'd see that on Friday the market started up by about 100 points. So my question was - how is that bad? You then stated(asked) if I had a reading problem - so was my link bad like I originally asked?

CkG

Ah...I see...your M.O...diversion. You couldn't comment on today's lackluster performance in the wake of "amazing" job news but had to point back to Friday's gains. If the economy was really on the rebound, I'd have expected today to be much better. Perhaps the folks on Wall Street know more than us, eh?

 

[maluckey]

Wow!! That's a sunsible reply....YOU should be banned from these forums for not making a partisan attack..........

 

[maluckey]

I saw on CNN and Fox yesterday afternoon, some "in-the-knows" talking about this same subject. What struck me as odd is that they also brought up that the per-capita income rose (again). If all the "good" jobs dissappeared overseas, and 300, 000 new jobs were reported (all supposedly lower paying) where is the extra money coming from? Something isn't right, and I smell spin. The lost jobs must all have been low pay? The richest just got mysteriously richer ? The middle class all got pay raises?

The only thing that I can think off is that big-heads in the major corporations must have gotten got a big pay raise. Let's reward them again with fewer taxes so that they can earn even more!!! Egads! I love capitalism and greed!

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur
Reading problems again, eh, CkG?

Flat <> bad

I said the stock market is flat.


DJIA 10,481.00  ^10.40

Nasdaq 2,062.54  ^5.37

S&P 500 1,143.34  ^1.53

day ending

DIJA ^87.8
Nasdaq ^21.95
S&P ^8.8

I was expecting a profit taking sell off today. The market is quite unpredictable on a day to day basis, but over time, it goes up.....

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: charrison
day ending

DIJA ^87.8
Nasdaq ^21.95
S&P ^8.8

I was expecting a profit taking sell off today. The market is quite unpredictable on a day to day basis, but over time, it goes up.....

Yeah, I noticed the day ending gains too We'll probably see a mid-day sell off tommorow but it should still show gains. <--my prediction

CkG

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: conjur
Reading problems again, eh, CkG?

Flat <> bad

I said the stock market is flat.


DJIA 10,481.00 ^10.40

Nasdaq 2,062.54 ^5.37

S&P 500 1,143.34 ^1.53

it's a bad idea to make predictions about the rest of the day, isn't it?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Hunh? Bad?

WTF are you talking about CkG? I never said anything about bad.

Like I said - "I fail to see how this is bad" - then you were supposed to click the link. You'd see that on Friday the market started up by about 100 points. So my question was - how is that bad? You then stated(asked) if I had a reading problem - so was my link bad like I originally asked?

CkG

he said it was flat today, not bad today. sheesh!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: conjur
Reading problems again, eh, CkG?

Flat <> bad

I said the stock market is flat.


DJIA 10,481.00 ^10.40

Nasdaq 2,062.54 ^5.37

S&P 500 1,143.34 ^1.53

it's a bad idea to make predictions about the rest of the day, isn't it?

Why? I've already made a prediction about tommorow

Pssttt - sell early if you want a quick buck

CkG

 

[bigd480]

I usually don't buy the statistics the gov't puts out but i finally got a job in March after 10 months of unemployment - not only have I seen more jobs available over the past month but the salaries aren't markedly lower than a year or two ago - the job I found actually paid more than my previous one

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: bigd480
I usually don't buy the statistics the gov't puts out but i finally got a job in March after 10 months of unemployment - not only have I seen more jobs available over the past month but the salaries aren't markedly lower than a year or two ago - the job I found actually paid more than my previous one

Congrats

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

A little humor from scrappleface on this subject

Kerry: Fat-Cats Pad Payrolls to Boost Bush
(2004-04-03) -- In the aftermath of news that 308,000 new jobs were created in March, Democrat presidential candidate John Forbes Kerry said today that "corporate fat-cats are padding their payrolls with unneeded workers to help George Bush win the election."

"These wealthy special interests are so desperate to give Bush some good news, that they've hired 308,000 people that they don't need," said Mr. Kerry. "Some say this is an expression of hope for a better future, but I think it's the worst sort of cynicism. Many of these same 308,000 will some day lose their jobs, and that tragic loss must be laid at the doorstep of George W. Bush who did nothing to stop his wealthy cronies from hiring these future unemployed people."

Mr. Kerry added that the corporations were just using the 308,000 new employees to take advantage of the "tax breaks for the rich" because salaries and benefits are deductible corporate expenses.

The senator from Massachusetts also suggested that the job creation figures had been manipulated.

"One must ask oneself whether these new jobs are real," he said, "since it is common knowledge that companies don't add more employees during a recession, but only during a recovery or in good economic times, and the latter scenarios are simply unthinkable."

Beautiful ...

CkG

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

so we have about 350k fewer people who have decided to no longer resigned them selves to living off the welfare system AND we've got 300k fewer people without a job.

So if I work for 20 years, if I collect one day of my states unemployment fund (which typically comes directly from tax receipts) I'm living off welfare?! You have no idea the context of most of the people that re-entered the workforce (w/ or w/o a job). Some likely ran out of benefits, some may have completed education/re-education, some were just tired of being at home, who knows . . . But your blanket statement about people being resigned to live off the welfare system is pure poo.

What are you talking about? How does the individual's context make any difference? And getting un-employment means you're not out of the work-force, so i wasn't even talking about those people.

just because you asociate some sort of negative social comentary for those that live because of government services in no way changes the fact that it's good for us all that they no longer need to live off of those benifits.

In fact it takes having one Party in control of Congress and another in control of the Whitehouse to get both parties to start acting financially responsible.

sad but true.

Theres nothing he can do to stop a trend such as the one manufacturing is experiancing, nationally and internationally. Why? Its called like with farming a half century ago, technology is replacing humans.

posted by Wolfdog:
Although there is still the congress and senate that are both bungling bunches of morons.

this is an out-right ignorant statement. Sure it's fun to make fun of politicians, but the fact is they follow these issues every day, and i have no doubt that almost every one of them does what they feel is the absolute best thing for the country; Granted: it's doubtful that we could find many of them that are as smart as you are, but they aren't dong any worse a job than any other human can.

You see the economy doesn't have to be cyclical in nature. The fact of the matter is that the tax cuts haven't worked.

i can show you a 7 year buisness cycle that goes back to biblical times. I can show how higher demand combined with lower cost of production leads to more jobs with lower prices.

There are so many here without jobs simply because they can't find work, so they give up.

sounds like a job market that just needs an entrapenure to employ all those people who would be happy to work.

You know actually controlling the price of things like natural gas and petroleum for that matter.

preseden't doesn't controll the market costs of anything, how can he? if he did many who want the limited item wouldn't have any.

500 billion he wanted to give to africa for AIDS relief.

that's actualy 500million; and an awesomely knoble effort that would save millions and millions of people;

Telling americans that they are now safe on americas airplanes when in fact they are not.

actually he said in his state of the union that we AREN'T safer.

When the unemployment rate goes down then you can talk.

facts are the facts; unemployment going down or staying the same without job-growth is bad, as was pointed out a few months ago. Although pay for jobs should be looked at as well. now that it's the other way things are good, please stop the partisan personal insults and just face the truth.

Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment".

individuals just need to learn to do something that's in demand; medical is in big-demand.

for everyone you tell me is working at circle-K instead of being an 80K/y web-master, i can show you someone like this:

not only have I seen more jobs available over the past month but the salaries aren't markedly lower than a year or two ago - the job I found actually paid more than my previous one

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: bigd480
I usually don't buy the statistics the gov't puts out but i finally got a job in March after 10 months of unemployment - not only have I seen more jobs available over the past month but the salaries aren't markedly lower than a year or two ago - the job I found actually paid more than my previous one

Congrats, hopefully this will be a trend.

 

[bigd480]

Thanks - I hope so too - I'd also like to note that my job and the jobs that most of my friends have gotten recently are at small private companies - which is a good sign I think because they have to actually make money to justify hiring; they typically don't have stock/cash reserves to rely on and are usually dependent upon spending of larger companies to succeed.

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: bigd480 I usually don't buy the statistics the gov't puts out but i finally got a job in March after 10 months of unemployment - not only have I seen more jobs available over the past month but the salaries aren't markedly lower than a year or two ago - the job I found actually paid more than my previous one

Congrats, hopefully this will be a trend.

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
A little humor from scrappleface on this subject

Kerry: Fat-Cats Pad Payrolls to Boost Bush
(2004-04-03) -- In the aftermath of news that 308,000 new jobs were created in March, Democrat presidential candidate John Forbes Kerry said today that "corporate fat-cats are padding their payrolls with unneeded workers to help George Bush win the election."

"These wealthy special interests are so desperate to give Bush some good news, that they've hired 308,000 people that they don't need," said Mr. Kerry. "Some say this is an expression of hope for a better future, but I think it's the worst sort of cynicism. Many of these same 308,000 will some day lose their jobs, and that tragic loss must be laid at the doorstep of George W. Bush who did nothing to stop his wealthy cronies from hiring these future unemployed people."

Mr. Kerry added that the corporations were just using the 308,000 new employees to take advantage of the "tax breaks for the rich" because salaries and benefits are deductible corporate expenses.

The senator from Massachusetts also suggested that the job creation figures had been manipulated.

"One must ask oneself whether these new jobs are real," he said, "since it is common knowledge that companies don't add more employees during a recession, but only during a recovery or in good economic times, and the latter scenarios are simply unthinkable."

Beautiful ...

CkG

Sigh..... Its a shame that I've heard dumber statements than that.

 

[sterling]

HI All

They overlook that a large portion of those so called jobs that were counted this quarter
were 70,000 + grocery strikers going back to work. Whens this government gonna start telling the
truth.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: sterling
HI All

They overlook that a large portion of those so called jobs that were counted this quarter
were 70,000 + grocery strikers going back to work. Whens this government gonna start telling the
truth.

Well, considering the net from that was only about 35k jobs added as temp workers were let go as the striking workers came back. It appears it is not the bls numbers that are not telling the truth.