March Job Growth Strongest in 4 Years

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: classy
I laugh at these reports. The economic growth has been the worst since the depression the last 4 years. So to have the best growth in the "last" 4 years really isn't saying much.

No, you are talking about job growth maybe, but not economic growth. But sure, believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night.

CkG

The number that is the most important is the unemployment rate. It has not changed. Many folks have even run out of unemployment benefits, unable to find a job. The job numbers is a bogus stat and you know it.

Really. That must be why week after week there are a couple hundred jobs in my local paper. If what you say is true, then there wouldn't be any jobs anywhere, but that isn't the case.

Of course the job number is bogus today, but it wasn't bogus when Clinton was President. Will the spinning and hypocricy ever end???

Again I have addressed this many times with proof as well unlike you.

The number has gone up in the local paper in just the last couple of weeks with outdoor seasonal jobs such as Marine workers, Landscaping and Golf Course work.

Many of the spots are not local, bogus and duplications. In December and January there was less than 20 positions in the paper that I posted the actual jobs.

Here is a link to todays:

Jobs in GAINESVILLE GA, US modified within the last 7 days

There you go again saying everything in the world is "bogus."

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: classy

I swear to God, republicans should change their name to the Borg. You guys are just drones, following the collective.

That could be said for any political affiliation.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: YellowRose
someone is fudging the numbers. You cannot have job gains and have unemployment rise.

You can if the size of the labor force grows faster than job growth.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Wolfdog
You see that Bush is really partly to blame for the poor state of the economy. Although there is still the congress and senate that are both bungling bunches of morons. You see the economy doesn't have to be cyclical in nature. The fact of the matter is that the tax cuts haven't worked. There are so many here without jobs simply because they can't find work, so they give up. So how is this Bush's fault you ask. I'll put in a few poinient things that Bush should have control over.

1) The cost of living. You know actually controlling the price of things like natural gas and petroleum for that matter. Now that he has gone back on a PROMISE he made during the 2000 election of controlling those prices he is even more of a liar.
2) Having fiscal responsability and not giving out more than the country makes. This can be seen as the 500 billion he wanted to give to africa for AIDS relief. This can also be seen in the big POS lie about WOMD in Iraq and the billions that have been spent paving thier roads and feeding thier people.
3) Creating a sense of security which isn't a bold face lie. Telling americans that they are now safe on americas airplanes when in fact they are not. Airport security still sucks.

ETC ETC

Bush is the head of the state and needs to seriously grow a set. Gas prices and dairy prices are on the rise which means billions of dollars are being pulled out of the economy in leau of goods and services. You see though this is an artificial gas shortage and the prices are not supply and demand. Blaming it on EPA standards? That should only rise the cost of gas 1-4c not the gouging we are seeing now and set to see. He has control of what can steer the economy and he is screwing the pooch. As for getting reelected the economy is the issue that most feel Kerry will do a better job. With more massive layoffs on the way and possibly another attack........
The proof will be in the pudding come this november.

Nice post Wolf. He used the Military, other that he is "Super Wuss".

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see:

"The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004

So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see:

"The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004

So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

Your post is hardly tangible to what you quoted. Pardon my french, but what exactly the fvck is your point, and how is it related to what I a or dirtboy said? Are you high? You posted some quote that is hardly related to what I said. Care to actually tie in WTF your point is?

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see: "The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

Your post is hardly tangible to what you quoted. Pardon my french, but what exactly the fvck is your point, and how is it related to what I a or dirtboy said? Are you high? You posted some quote that is hardly related to what I said. Care to actually tie in WTF your point is?

OK, I thought only my 12 yrs old sister needs explainations, but, I thought wrong.

In your post, you said that neither president, leader of the free world, the one man who's decisions and actions has EVERYTHING to do with how the economy shifts, can't single handedly effect the out come of the economy.

Contrary to your post (and the band wagoneer that praised your effort), Bush think it's otherwise (hence the Dubya quote). The economy is indeed affected by his very decisions and fcuking actions, according to the monkey you're worshipping. CAPICHE? If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, I suggest you...

STOP POSTING.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see: "The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

Your post is hardly tangible to what you quoted. Pardon my french, but what exactly the fvck is your point, and how is it related to what I a or dirtboy said? Are you high? You posted some quote that is hardly related to what I said. Care to actually tie in WTF your point is?

OK, I thought only my 12 yrs old sister needs explainations, but, I thought wrong.

In your post, you said that neither president, leader of the free world, the one man who's decisions and actions has EVERYTHING to do with how the economy shifts, can't single handedly effect the out come of the economy.

Contrary to your post (and the band wagoneer that praised your effort), Bush think it's otherwise (hence the Dubya quote). The economy is indeed affected by his very decisions and fcuking actions, according to the monkey you're worshipping. CAPICHE? If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, I suggest you...

STOP POSTING.

oh my, aren't someone's panties in a twist. I think your 12 year old sister needs to stop listening to her brother. Your use of that quote to try to "prove" something is more than a tad convoluted. I suggest you chill out for a while until you can think more clearly -then maybe you could rejoin the "big kids" CAPICHE

CkG

 

[flyfish]

Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?


I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?

I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

According to Rush, The President and CAD & Co they are the best jobs ever at the highest wages ever, are you blind?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?

I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

According to Rush, The President and CAD & Co they are the best jobs ever at the highest wages ever, are you blind?

More FUD by both of you. Why don't you both TRY and read for a change and quit trying to excuse away good news for the US. The "crappy jobs" routine is getting old - you can't continue to use that same tired excuse month after month - expecially since it isn't true.

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?

I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

According to Rush, The President and CAD & Co they are the best jobs ever at the highest wages ever, are you blind?

More FUD by both of you. Why don't you both TRY and read for a change and quit trying to excuse away good news for the US. The "crappy jobs" routine is getting old - you can't continue to use that same tired excuse month after month - expecially since it isn't true.

CkG

You're right, folks wouldn't have to if there were decent jobs out there to be had.

Like Tom Cruise character says "Show us the good decent paying jobs."

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see: "The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

Your post is hardly tangible to what you quoted. Pardon my french, but what exactly the fvck is your point, and how is it related to what I a or dirtboy said? Are you high? You posted some quote that is hardly related to what I said. Care to actually tie in WTF your point is?

OK, I thought only my 12 yrs old sister needs explainations, but, I thought wrong.

In your post, you said that neither president, leader of the free world, the one man who's decisions and actions has EVERYTHING to do with how the economy shifts, can't single handedly effect the out come of the economy.

Contrary to your post (and the band wagoneer that praised your effort), Bush think it's otherwise (hence the Dubya quote). The economy is indeed affected by his very decisions and fcuking actions, according to the monkey you're worshipping. CAPICHE? If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, I suggest you...

STOP POSTING.

Uh huh. That quote doesn't prove what you said your point was at all. I've got to agree with Cad that it is quite convoluted. I still think you are wrong BTW.

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see: "The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

Your post is hardly tangible to what you quoted. Pardon my french, but what exactly the fvck is your point, and how is it related to what I a or dirtboy said? Are you high? You posted some quote that is hardly related to what I said. Care to actually tie in WTF your point is?

OK, I thought only my 12 yrs old sister needs explainations, but, I thought wrong. In your post, you said that neither president, leader of the free world, the one man who's decisions and actions has EVERYTHING to do with how the economy shifts, can't single handedly effect the out come of the economy. Contrary to your post (and the band wagoneer that praised your effort), Bush think it's otherwise (hence the Dubya quote). The economy is indeed affected by his very decisions and fcuking actions, according to the monkey you're worshipping. CAPICHE? If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, I suggest you... STOP POSTING.

Uh huh. That quote doesn't prove what you said your point was at all. I've got to agree with Cad that it is quite convoluted. I still think you are wrong BTW.

My apologies, I forgot that this is P&N, humor and sarcasm is non existence.

 

[MiLLeRBoY]

YAY! go George W. Bush!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MiLLeRBoY
YAY! go George W. Bush!

I see the Head Injury Trauma Ward has finally gotten Broad Band

 

[MiLLeRBoY]

Tell me why you don't like Bush?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MiLLeRBoY
Tell me why you don't like Bush?

I have a better Idea, aquaint yourself with the members of this Forum by using the search feature. Just type in Bush and you should find your answer.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?


I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

It is not just you. We lost good jobs. Most new jobs so far have been low paying retail and service jobs.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?


I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

It is not just you. We lost good jobs. Most new jobs so far have been low paying retail and service jobs.

The same thing was said in the 1990s when unemployment was 5.6%...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Wow, people that were making 80K a year are forced into making far less, part time, just to make ends meet, are counted as "rising employment". Way to go

Supposedly the job jump, which reasons were pointed out by Conjur, but unemployment is still higher than the jump, in other words, it's still going UP ^^^.

Are you kidding me? The tech bubble caused a massive bubble in the amount of wages people were being paid, and also the number of people employed. Reality started setting in when Clinton left office. Those of you who act as if Bush or Clinton can just wave a finger and influence jobs are completely silly.

There is intelligence in this thread after all!!!

Hmnm.... lets see: "The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." ?George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 So, no investments, no new jobs, from the man himself. You're definitely right, there's intelligence in this thread after all, but from neither of you.

Your post is hardly tangible to what you quoted. Pardon my french, but what exactly the fvck is your point, and how is it related to what I a or dirtboy said? Are you high? You posted some quote that is hardly related to what I said. Care to actually tie in WTF your point is?

OK, I thought only my 12 yrs old sister needs explainations, but, I thought wrong. In your post, you said that neither president, leader of the free world, the one man who's decisions and actions has EVERYTHING to do with how the economy shifts, can't single handedly effect the out come of the economy. Contrary to your post (and the band wagoneer that praised your effort), Bush think it's otherwise (hence the Dubya quote). The economy is indeed affected by his very decisions and fcuking actions, according to the monkey you're worshipping. CAPICHE? If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, I suggest you... STOP POSTING.

Uh huh. That quote doesn't prove what you said your point was at all. I've got to agree with Cad that it is quite convoluted. I still think you are wrong BTW.

My apologies, I forgot that this is P&N, humor and sarcasm is non existence.

That's the least decent backtrack from a point I've ever seen. I'm done with you in this thread.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?


I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

It is not just you. We lost good jobs. Most new jobs so far have been low paying retail and service jobs.

The same thing was said in the 1990s when unemployment was 5.6%...

I remember reading something about that too. Might have to go find where I read that.

CkG

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: flyfish
Is it just me... or does it seem to you like 99% of these "new" jobs are CRAP?


I mean...just read the classifieds!
:disgust:

It is not just you. We lost good jobs. Most new jobs so far have been low paying retail and service jobs.

The same thing was said in the 1990s when unemployment was 5.6%...

I remember reading something about that too. Might have to go find where I read that.

CkG

The thing is that those low paying jobs get people earning again, and spending again. This creates more demand for goods and services which creates a need for more analysts, engineers, programmers etc. A recovery begins in modest ways and then causes the entire economy to pick up. This is definitely a good sign even if most of these new jobs are low paying ones right now, the higher paying jobs will follow.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I'm sorry but what planet do you people live on to say that Kerry has no chance of being elected??? Bush's approval ratings are steadily declining since January 04, which is not a good thing. Things in Iraq have gone from bad to worse, and it doesnt look like there is any resolution in sight. Gas prices are ridiculously high, and the job situation is iffy at best. You can't say that it's good at the moment because one month doesn't insure that things will stay this way. Also if it is true that the new jobs created are lowpaying service jobs then that's nothing to get excited over. We want our manufacturing jobs and higher paying, higher skilled jobs back.
For so much going against Bush at the moment, I'm surprised he's doing as well as he is. Just goes to show how strong party politics is in blinding people.