Many won't go without pets if US evacuation called

[Ronstang]

Where I go my pets go, it really is that simple. They rely on me and I am not going to desert them to fend for themsevles but I don't expect the government to do jack for me or them. I already have and evacuation plan and several places to go and will go on my own. If I decide to weather a storm I also have a very safe haven right near by that I have hellped my friend setup at his place and I am welcome there....along with my pets. We rode out Rita because the numbers looked good and we only got medium winds and no damage. We aren't near the coast so it is not as big of a problem here. I was even prepared and had my generator ready the minute the power went out and the rain stopped. I wouldn't rely on our government for anything.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: zendari
A pet is not a human being. A pet does not pay tax dollars.

DING! DING! DING!

WE HAVE A WINNER!

After centuries of attempts to legally define a human being, our resident individualist has succeeded to provide a clear-cut definition of the term!

Bravo!

Now I understand why "illegal immigrants" are also animals who have to be hunted down.

Perfect!

well, that should settle the abortion debate once and for all - abortions are now legal until the kid earns enough to pay taxes.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
i consider my pets to be much-loved members of my immediate family.. i actually love them more than I do some of my human family members. I'd never leave them behind... i'd go down with the ship if I had to.

but hey, to each their own.

if you love your pets so much, you still entrust the government to care of you and them???

why wouldn't you leave a day or two earlier so that your pet's fate is in your hands and not the governments then?

people that own pets should take the necessary steps to ensure their the safety of their animals does not jeaporadize the life of another human in a disaster situation. You cannot expect a government funded shelter whose primary focus is to provide for human survivors after a disaster to make room for a pet. You had the opportunity to protect your pet when the evacuation warnings are given. How can you fault anyone for not protecting your pet when you had every ample opportunity to evacuate on your terms prior to the storm hitting?

since you choose not to leave, how you can you hold the government, or anyone else for that matter, responsible for your poor decision making?

 

[Braznor]

The answer is very simple:

If you can save your pet and make sure that no human being gets left out, fine.

However in case of conflict, pick the human being above the pet.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: waggy
let them ignore it. they get NOTHING from the goverment though.

Technically I agree with you, but if any politician values their political well-being, you can bet it won't happen.Nate

I agree with waggy.
Which is why I wouldnt last 1 week in public office.

heh i would be a 1 term myself. but i have great confidence i can do a good job and not pander to business.



I have had pets all my life. heck i live on a farm just so i can have more pets then most cities allow. BUT they are pets. if it comes down to my neighbor or my dog getting a place on the raft you can damn well bet "spot" would be dog paddling behind us as far as he can.

IF someone wants to stay with the pets then let them. they are adults and making that choice. If they decide to stay leave them there to survive the best they can. Do not divert resources to save them UNTIL they are sure every HUMAN is safe.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: palehorse74
i consider my pets to be much-loved members of my immediate family.. i actually love them more than I do some of my human family members. I'd never leave them behind... i'd go down with the ship if I had to.

but hey, to each their own.

if you love your pets so much, you still entrust the government to care of you and them???

why wouldn't you leave a day or two earlier so that your pet's fate is in your hands and not the governments then?

people that own pets should take the necessary steps to ensure their the safety of their animals does not jeaporadize the life of another human in a disaster situation. You cannot expect a government funded shelter whose primary focus is to provide for human survivors after a disaster to make room for a pet. You had the opportunity to protect your pet when the evacuation warnings are given. How can you fault anyone for not protecting your pet when you had every ample opportunity to evacuate on your terms prior to the storm hitting?

since you choose not to leave, how you can you hold the government, or anyone else for that matter, responsible for your poor decision making?

very true. but tha tappplies to everyone that decides to stay. IF they did not take the warning to leave and stayed can they blame the goverment for it?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: palehorse74
i consider my pets to be much-loved members of my immediate family.. i actually love them more than I do some of my human family members. I'd never leave them behind... i'd go down with the ship if I had to.

but hey, to each their own.

if you love your pets so much, you still entrust the government to care of you and them???

why wouldn't you leave a day or two earlier so that your pet's fate is in your hands and not the governments then?

people that own pets should take the necessary steps to ensure their the safety of their animals does not jeaporadize the life of another human in a disaster situation. You cannot expect a government funded shelter whose primary focus is to provide for human survivors after a disaster to make room for a pet. You had the opportunity to protect your pet when the evacuation warnings are given. How can you fault anyone for not protecting your pet when you had every ample opportunity to evacuate on your terms prior to the storm hitting?

since you choose not to leave, how you can you hold the government, or anyone else for that matter, responsible for your poor decision making?

but see, that's the thing. im a survivor, and i also have a decent amount of common sense. i most certainly would leave ahead of time and not have to worry about any of the nonsense those idiots in NO faced... my wife, my pets and I would walk out together well ahead of time, or ASAP. I dont need help from ANYONE in that regard... I depend on myself and know that I can if and when I need to.

 

[spacejamz]

in re-reading the 1st part of the article in the OP

WASHINGTON, June 1 (Reuters) - On the first day of the hurricane season, two high-level U.S. officials said on Thursday pet care must be part of disaster preparations or animal-loving Americans will ignore evacuation orders and stay home with their pets.

"People are not going to leave," said George Foresman, undersecretary for preparedness at the Homeland Security Department, unless they can take their pets with them or be certain of their care.

Exactly what is stopping them from leaving with their pets???

once a warning issued (or heaven forbid you watch CNN or Fox or the Weather Channel that will tell you 48 hour ahead of time that hurricane is about to hit), you can leave whenever you want to wherever you want with whomever or whatever (pets included) you want....

what exactly is the issue here???

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: palehorse74
i consider my pets to be much-loved members of my immediate family.. i actually love them more than I do some of my human family members. I'd never leave them behind... i'd go down with the ship if I had to.

but hey, to each their own.

if you love your pets so much, you still entrust the government to care of you and them???

why wouldn't you leave a day or two earlier so that your pet's fate is in your hands and not the governments then?

people that own pets should take the necessary steps to ensure their the safety of their animals does not jeaporadize the life of another human in a disaster situation. You cannot expect a government funded shelter whose primary focus is to provide for human survivors after a disaster to make room for a pet. You had the opportunity to protect your pet when the evacuation warnings are given. How can you fault anyone for not protecting your pet when you had every ample opportunity to evacuate on your terms prior to the storm hitting?

since you choose not to leave, how you can you hold the government, or anyone else for that matter, responsible for your poor decision making?

very true. but tha tappplies to everyone that decides to stay. IF they did not take the warning to leave and stayed can they blame the goverment for it?

That's precisely what people do.

 

[OFFascist]

I do not think government evacuation plans should allow for pets, they should primarily be set up to help and save human life.

That being said I love my pets, and I love my family, because of this I wont allow our saftey to be left alone in the hands of the government.

We are planning for ourselves. You cannot nor should you rely on the government.

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: rickn
schools are evacuation centers, and they do not allow pets in during evacuations. my dogs are like my kids, we should be allowed to bring them.

If you care about your pets or your family you would not put thier safety solely in the hands of the government. You should make your own preparations.

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: Braznor
The answer is very simple:

If you can save your pet and make sure that no human being gets left out, fine.

However in case of conflict, pick the human being above the pet.

Sorry I would take my pets over some random stranger.

However I would not blame government units from picking the random stranger over someone's pet.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: palehorse74
i consider my pets to be much-loved members of my immediate family.. i actually love them more than I do some of my human family members. I'd never leave them behind... i'd go down with the ship if I had to.

but hey, to each their own.

if you love your pets so much, you still entrust the government to care of you and them???

why wouldn't you leave a day or two earlier so that your pet's fate is in your hands and not the governments then?

people that own pets should take the necessary steps to ensure their the safety of their animals does not jeaporadize the life of another human in a disaster situation. You cannot expect a government funded shelter whose primary focus is to provide for human survivors after a disaster to make room for a pet. You had the opportunity to protect your pet when the evacuation warnings are given. How can you fault anyone for not protecting your pet when you had every ample opportunity to evacuate on your terms prior to the storm hitting?

since you choose not to leave, how you can you hold the government, or anyone else for that matter, responsible for your poor decision making?

very true. but tha tappplies to everyone that decides to stay. IF they did not take the warning to leave and stayed can they blame the goverment for it?

That's precisely what people do.

Oh i know they will. They did it after Katrina.