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martman

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I am very sorry for this noobish question..but after talking to others that have "high-end"Nvidia cards it seems many "out there" dont actually know the best global settings to use in the "manage 3D settings" of the control panel. I have just this past Tuesday recieved my wonderful 8800GTX KO ASC3. Is there any chance someone could help me..and others..? below is a copy of the global settings list.
My system specs are in my sig. I very rarely watch movies.I mostly web surf and game on this pc.( I play Tomb Raider Legend, F.E.A.R., Etraction Point, and Tiger Woods PGA tour 07, for example)I realize that without a new build with a core duo and new mobo, I wont get the same performance as the people with new builds.I would like tho, to see this very powerful card reach its potential "with my system".I simply am not very pc savy when it comes to terms such as trilinear optimization, texture clamp,and such.

Antialiasing-Setting----
Antialiasing-Transparency---
Conformant texture clamp---
Error reporting-------
Extension limit-----
Force mipmaps-----
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration---
Texture filtering-Anistropic sample optimization--
Texture filtering-Negative LOD bias---
Texture filtering-Quality---
Texture filtering-Trilinear optimization---
Threaded optimization---
Triple biffering---
Vertical sync---

 

akshayt

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Although I don't know much about the G80 series, I would say try at default settings first and only adjust AA, AF and IQ initially. For the rest ask others.

If you want to manually select, give AA/AF App Preference or select the max AF possible and 0-8x AA depending upon the game you want to play. Unless you plan to use VSync (use only if you have a lot of image tearing) don't use Tripple Buffering, By default keep both to App Prefercence or Off. Keep Image Quality settings at max.

With a 8800GTX and your rig you should not be having any issues with running FEAR at 1600x1200 4x AA MAX(rest) or even 1920x1440 4x AA MAX(rest). Try using just 2 modules of RAM incase you are having memory conflicts. Tomb Raider Legend should probably run at similar settings but probably with reduced preformance than FEAR.
 

CrystalBay

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The thing with FEAR is that it is pure SM2 code with no SM3 code which is one reason it does not run better than it should.
 

martman

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Thanks for the help, myself and a friend could use the help of the folks here with graphics card knowledge. If I start to see slowdowns with this card then it will be time to up-grade the rest of the system.
 

TheRyuu

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I prefer the XTreme-G Drivers.

Just make sure to uninstall them the the correct way.

One thing that I've learned is that the new Nvidia CP sucks.

Use Rivatuner for overclocking/temp monitoring/advanced tweaking (which you probably won't be doing).

And use nHancer to handle all the driver settings.
The only reason I could see myself (since I use Rivatuner+nHancer) going into the Nvidia CP is to changed the monitor or purevideo settings.

If you like the nvidia CP then by all means use it (to each his own). But trust me, you'll probably like nHancer 1000x better.

Late now and can't really think too well. But the information is all out there. Google it if you don't know it.
I might be back tomorrow though ;)

 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: akshayt
Although I don't know much about the G80 series, I would say try at default settings first and only adjust AA, AF and IQ initially. For the rest ask others.

If you want to manually select, give AA/AF App Preference or select the max AF possible and 0-8x AA depending upon the game you want to play. Unless you plan to use VSync (use only if you have a lot of image tearing) don't use Tripple Buffering, By default keep both to App Prefercence or Off. Keep Image Quality settings at max.

With a 8800GTX and your rig you should not be having any issues with running FEAR at 1600x1200 4x AA MAX(rest) or even 1920x1440 4x AA MAX(rest). Try using just 2 modules of RAM incase you are having memory conflicts. Tomb Raider Legend should probably run at similar settings but probably with reduced preformance than FEAR.

you don't much about anything....stop posting
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: martman
I am very sorry for this noobish question..but after talking to others that have "high-end"Nvidia cards it seems many "out there" dont actually know the best global settings to use in the "manage 3D settings" of the control panel. I have just this past Tuesday recieved my wonderful 8800GTX KO ASC3. Is there any chance someone could help me..and others..? below is a copy of the global settings list.
My system specs are in my sig. I very rarely watch movies.I mostly web surf and game on this pc.( I play Tomb Raider Legend, F.E.A.R., Etraction Point, and Tiger Woods PGA tour 07, for example)I realize that without a new build with a core duo and new mobo, I wont get the same performance as the people with new builds.I would like tho, to see this very powerful card reach its potential "with my system".I simply am not very pc savy when it comes to terms such as trilinear optimization, texture clamp,and such.

Antialiasing-Setting----Enables different levels of Anti-Aliasing which smooth jaggies.
Antialiasing-Transparency---Enables Multi/Supersampling Anti-Aliasing on Transparent textures such as Fences, power lines, grass)
Conformant texture clamp---When used with Tri/Bilinear Filtering, samples textures on the edges of borderes. Leave as is unless using legacy hardware (ie: GF 3 and below) and OpenGL games
Error reporting-------Not 100% positive so I want guess, but largely unimportant
Extension limit-----Used for legacy applications which limit driver extensions. Mainly used in conjunction with the User Profiles which allow customization of settings per game)
Force mipmaps-----Forces Bilinear/Trilinear filtering. On older applications which do not natively support MIP map filtering, you can enable it here.
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration---Used when using Dual displays. Just determines the default performance setting to use once two displays are enabled
Texture filtering-Anistropic sample optimization--Another Optimization used when the samples of textures are taken before Anisotropic Filtering is applied/ Sacrifices IQ for performance
Texture filtering-Negative LOD bias---Deals with how images use texture filtering to sharpen the image. If they use automatic Anisotropic Filtering, this improves the quality of the object when stationary (Assuming it is set to clamp) but introduces Aliasing when moving.
Texture filtering-Quality---Basically a global setting that enables and disables the above optimizations based on different levels chosen (High Quality = Optimizations off)
Texture filtering-Trilinear optimization---Sacrifices IQ for a slight speed boost when using Trilinear Filtering.
Threaded optimization---Enables multi-threading. I believe Nvidia offloads some Texture Processing to the second core of the CPU to improve performance
Triple biffering---When using Vsync uses a third buffer (Traditionally only 2 buffers are used) to allow frames to be drawn a rate that exceeds the refresh rate of the monitor without introducing flickering or Vertical Tearing
Vertical sync---Synchronizes the framerate with the refresh rate of the monitor to prevent Vertical Tearing

I tried to make that as easy to understand as possible. If you want more info, there are quite a few members who can go into greater detail here. Also Beyond3D always has pretty decent info on options such as these.

Hope it helps, enjoy the 8800.

-Kevin
 

martman

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Thanks guys.. especially 308nato and gamingphreek... thats the type stuff we need to know. It seems to be very easy to have a bunch of settings working against each other. Exactly what I was worried about. thanks again
 

n7

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That is hugely helpful Gamingphreek :thumbsup:

The only thing one really needs to worry about in the settings is Texture filtering-Quality, as nVidia defaults to lower than their best quality.
Set that to high quality, & then you can always mess with AA & AF per game, etc.
 

Zebo

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Many of us know less than we'd admit

Truer words have never been spoken... you're quite the philosopher.. However in this case all you had to do is right click on "what is this?" for a full description of the setting in question. In other words RTFM:) :p
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: n7
That is hugely helpful Gamingphreek :thumbsup:

The only thing one really needs to worry about in the settings is Texture filtering-Quality, as nVidia defaults to lower than their best quality.
Set that to high quality, & then you can always mess with AA & AF per game, etc.

Thanks guys. Yea but you can achieve the High Quality filtering by manually disabling those Optimizations. From what I have found, the cards prior to the 8 series take about a 7-9% hit in framerate while the 8 series doesn't take a noticeable hit.

-Kevin