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Manson Dead

Ironic he lives to 83 and dies of natural causes. Avoided a death sentence due to a change in California's constitution. They moved on that just a little too soon.
 
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Impressionable young minds. Utter devotion. His "family." White "superiority." Trying to start a race war with unspeakable cruelty and bloodshed. Violence as the voice of pride, control. It didn't begin nor end with him. He's just a symptom.
 
bradly1101 said:
Impressionable young minds. Utter devotion. His "family." White "superiority." Trying to start a race war with unspeakable cruelty and bloodshed. Violence as the voice of pride, control. It didn't begin nor end with him. He's just a symptom.
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Iknowright? Today's Manson family flies Pepe flags, wears red hats, and march with tiki torches. Their goals are 100% aligned. ...one might say that in the minds of the alt-right, Manson was a man tragically ahead of his time.
 
Manson never killed anyone. The closest he got was slicing off a guy's ear with a sword. He was like a modern day St. Peter.
 
^^^This. Not to defend Manson, but how was he convicted of murder when he wasn't there? Conspiracy sure but murder.
 
Bird222 said:
^^^This. Not to defend Manson, but how was he convicted of murder when he wasn't there? Conspiracy sure but murder.
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He was there for the LaBianca murders. I also think he did murder personally, although there may not be evidence to prove it. Read Helter Skelter. And he did order the Tate etc. murder scene. Whether he himself did the stabbing of Sharon Tate, etc. isn't that consequential.

And yes, you are defending Manson... but weakly.

From Wikipedia: [to me, this is murder, and he WAS there]

"The next night of August 10, 1969, six Family members — Leslie Van Houten, Steve "Clem" Grogan, and the four from the previous night — drove out on Manson's orders. Displeased by the panic of the victims at Cielo Drive, Manson accompanied the six, "to show them how to do it."[1]:176–184, 258–269[42] After a few hours' ride, in which he considered a number of murders and even attempted one of them,[1]:258–269[42] Manson gave Kasabian directions that brought the group to 3301 Waverly Drive. This was the home of supermarket executive Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary, a dress shop co-owner.[1]:22–25, 42–48 Located in the Los Feliz section of Los Angeles, it was next door to a house at which Manson and Family members had attended a party the previous year.[1]:176–184, 204–210

According to Atkins and Kasabian, Manson disappeared up the driveway and returned to say he had tied up the house's occupants. He then sent Watson up with Krenwinkel and Van Houten.[1]:176–184, 258–269 In his autobiography, Watson stated that having gone up alone, Manson returned to take him up to the house with him. After Manson pointed out a sleeping man through a window, the two of them entered through the unlocked back door.[42] Watson added at trial, he "went along with" the women's account, which he figured made him "look that much less responsible."[43]

As Watson related it, Manson roused the sleeping Leno LaBianca from the couch at gunpoint and had Watson bind his hands with a leather thong. After Rosemary was brought briefly into the living room from the bedroom, Watson followed Manson's instructions to cover the couple's heads with pillowcases. He bound these in place with lamp cords. Manson left, sending Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten into the house with instructions that the couple be killed."
 
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Probably one of the few people that simply enjoyed evilness. Interesting to me that not non-sadists can do much more damage. Harder to tolerate imagining that evil acts are more complicated than being driven by wholly evil people.
 
Manson, dead? Hey how about this weather.

IronWing said:
Manson never killed anyone. The closest he got was slicing off a guy's ear with a sword. He was like a modern day St. Peter.
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He truly was a demented, minuscule little pissant - couldn't even live up to that myth with a prone target and others helping him! Only took off half an ear. I remember someone showing me a report on that incident, how it mentioned Manson's girls using dental floss to stitch the ear up. (ugh)
 
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