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Manny Ramirez, Best shot at Triple Crown?

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PlatinumGold

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he's hardly being talked about at all this season and yet he's having a GREAT GREAT season, his average is 26 pts below his career average (Career average .314, current average .288) but OTHER than that, he's leading in RBI's 107 to 93 and is in 2nd in the AL in HR's.

if he gets hot for about 20 games, he feasibly could take the triple crown. he'd have to pass teammate Damon for average (ya that could be tough) but he's closer than Derek Lee, who you were hearing about all season long.

amazing. one of the best hitters of our generations, actually 3 of the best hitters of our generation, Sheffield, Ramirez and Bonds are all pretty much despised.
 
closer than Derek Lee? How do you figure that making up 60 pts in batting average is closer than a few HR's and a few RBI's?

Of your list of three - Sheff is a hothead, Bonds is Bonds...Manny is crazy...
 
Manny does not have the avg to go for the triple crown.

He is absolutely amazing, though and having another wonderful season. Worth the antics he pulls every now and then
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
closer than Derek Lee? How do you figure that making up 60 pts in batting average is closer than a few HR's and a few RBI's?

Of your list of three - Sheff is a hothead, Bonds is Bonds...Manny is crazy...
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48 points not 60.

lee has gotten very very cold. his average is .378 pre all star vs .259 post all star. Plus he was hitting way above his career average so it's not likely he will return to Pre All star type numbers

Manny has increased his average quite a bit post all star AND his career average is .308, so he is more likely to maintain the higher BA vs pre all star.

 
Originally posted by: Spooner
Manny does not have the avg to go for the triple crown.

He is absolutely amazing, though and having another wonderful season. Worth the antics he pulls every now and then
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107 rbi's in 105 games.
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
closer than Derek Lee? How do you figure that making up 60 pts in batting average is closer than a few HR's and a few RBI's?

Of your list of three - Sheff is a more than likely roids, Bonds is definetly roids...Manny is dominican...
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fixed :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
closer than Derek Lee? How do you figure that making up 60 pts in batting average is closer than a few HR's and a few RBI's?

Of your list of three - Sheff is a hothead, Bonds is Bonds...Manny is crazy...
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ty cobbs was a psycho so what. he is still one of the greatest players to ever play the game.

fact is, manny is one of the best hitters in the MLB. he may even be considered an all time great. his numbers are getting close to HOF type numbers.
 
Bonds is the best hitter of our generation. His past 5 years or so have been pretty much impossibly good.

Manny isn't hated btw. 🙂
 
manny had a VERY slow start to the season. i don't see him pulling his batting average up in time to win the triple crown. he'll also need jones to slow down with the HR's, although catching up on a few of those is easier than jacking the batting average way up.

having said that, 107 RBI in 105 games is incredible. and, given he was hitting in the .240s a good chunk into the season and is now at .288, i suppose it's possible.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: NeoV
closer than Derek Lee? How do you figure that making up 60 pts in batting average is closer than a few HR's and a few RBI's?

Of your list of three - Sheff is a hothead, Bonds is Bonds...Manny is crazy...
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ty cobbs was a psycho so what. he is still one of the greatest players to ever play the game.

fact is, manny is one of the best hitters in the MLB. he may even be considered an all time great. his numbers are getting close to HOF type numbers.
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Also in response to that, Manny is already a hall of famer. Give him 3 mroe years and 100 more homers and he will be first ballot.
 
Originally posted by: brikis98
manny had a VERY slow start to the season. i don't see him pulling his batting average up in time to win the triple crown. he'll also need jones to slow down with the HR's, although catching up on a few of those is easier than jacking the batting average way up.

having said that, 107 RBI in 105 games is incredible. and, given he was hitting in the .240s a good chunk into the season and is now at .288, i suppose it's possible.
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hmm, i thought triple crown was PER league, a triple crown for AL players and a triple crown for NL hitters.

if it is Triple Crown for the ENTIRE MLB than no one has a very good shot.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: brikis98
manny had a VERY slow start to the season. i don't see him pulling his batting average up in time to win the triple crown. he'll also need jones to slow down with the HR's, although catching up on a few of those is easier than jacking the batting average way up.

having said that, 107 RBI in 105 games is incredible. and, given he was hitting in the .240s a good chunk into the season and is now at .288, i suppose it's possible.
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hmm, i thought triple crown was PER league, a triple crown for AL players and a triple crown for NL hitters.

if it is Triple Crown for the ENTIRE MLB than no one has a very good shot.
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triple crown is for just your league I'm pretty sure
 
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: brikis98
manny had a VERY slow start to the season. i don't see him pulling his batting average up in time to win the triple crown. he'll also need jones to slow down with the HR's, although catching up on a few of those is easier than jacking the batting average way up.

having said that, 107 RBI in 105 games is incredible. and, given he was hitting in the .240s a good chunk into the season and is now at .288, i suppose it's possible.
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hmm, i thought triple crown was PER league, a triple crown for AL players and a triple crown for NL hitters.

if it is Triple Crown for the ENTIRE MLB than no one has a very good shot.
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triple crown is for just your league I'm pretty sure
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i am too, i just couldn't figure out why he was bringing up Andruw Jones in a AL Triple Crown discussion.
 
307 is a good average, but not great. There are several batters in the league that have a better chance at the triple crown. It's alot easier to hit an above average amount of home runs than it is to bat 350 or 370 for an entire season..

Best chance would probably be Pujols in the NL. He is consistently great every year and is young enough to only get better.

Hate to say it but Arod probably has a better chance in the AL
 
a-rod: .317, 33 HR, 90 RBI
manny: .288, 32, 107

Easier to make up average than RBI's 😉 I doubt either one of them will win the batting title.
 
Manny needs to hit .435 the rest of the season to get to a .335 batting average. If he hits the rest of the season at .314 (which is his career average, .308 was his average last year) and gets hot for 20 games, he needs to hit .486 in those 20 games.

 
Originally posted by: junkerman123
a-rod: .317, 33 HR, 90 RBI
manny: .288, 32, 107

Easier to make up average than RBI's 😉 I doubt either one of them will win the batting title.
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You can thank the rest of the Yankee lineup for not getting on base. Steinbrenner will just reload in the off-season.
 
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Manny needs to hit .435 the rest of the season to get to a .335 batting average. If he hits the rest of the season at .314 (which is his career average, .308 was his average last year) and gets hot for 20 games, he needs to hit .486 in those 20 games.
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he's hit .480 or so since the all star break so it's not like he's not capable of doing it.
 
Manny's a hell of a hitter (and this comes, begrudgingly, from a Yankee fan). Must be those breaks he takes in the AC inside the Green Monster. 😛
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Manny needs to hit .435 the rest of the season to get to a .335 batting average. If he hits the rest of the season at .314 (which is his career average, .308 was his average last year) and gets hot for 20 games, he needs to hit .486 in those 20 games.
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he's hit .480 or so since the all star break so it's not like he's not capable of doing it.
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He's hitting .340 since the all star break. He is hitting .533 over the last 4 games, but he needs to keep that up for a while before anyone gets excited.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: brikis98
manny had a VERY slow start to the season. i don't see him pulling his batting average up in time to win the triple crown. he'll also need jones to slow down with the HR's, although catching up on a few of those is easier than jacking the batting average way up.

having said that, 107 RBI in 105 games is incredible. and, given he was hitting in the .240s a good chunk into the season and is now at .288, i suppose it's possible.
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hmm, i thought triple crown was PER league, a triple crown for AL players and a triple crown for NL hitters.

if it is Triple Crown for the ENTIRE MLB than no one has a very good shot.
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triple crown is for just your league I'm pretty sure
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i am too, i just couldn't figure out why he was bringing up Andruw Jones in a AL Triple Crown discussion.
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both exist - there's a league (AL/NL) triple crown and a major league triple crown. there's also a pitching triple crown (wins, K's, ERA) and an alternative hitting triple crown that factors in runs scored.

 
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Manny needs to hit .435 the rest of the season to get to a .335 batting average. If he hits the rest of the season at .314 (which is his career average, .308 was his average last year) and gets hot for 20 games, he needs to hit .486 in those 20 games.
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he's hit .480 or so since the all star break so it's not like he's not capable of doing it.
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He's hitting .340 since the all star break. He is hitting .533 over the last 4 games, but he needs to keep that up for a while before anyone gets excited.
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well, a surge by one player and a slump by another and it's quite possible, although somewhat unlikely.
 
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