Manned moon mission in 2018??

[dcaron]

Originally posted by: MadRat
What would a manned mission to the moon accomplish that robotic missions would not? The robots on Mars have proven remarkably agile even during Mars winter. Surely with the moon so much more hospitable we could get even more done with robots. Its my loud opinion that a manned mission to the moon is just plain stupid.

If all we are ever going to do is send robots then I don't really see a point to exploring space anyway.

 

[dornick]

Originally posted by: dcaron

Originally posted by: MadRat
What would a manned mission to the moon accomplish that robotic missions would not? The robots on Mars have proven remarkably agile even during Mars winter. Surely with the moon so much more hospitable we could get even more done with robots. Its my loud opinion that a manned mission to the moon is just plain stupid.

If all we are ever going to do is send robots then I don't really see a point to exploring space anyway.

this is true. the reality is, nobody cares about space travel because it doesnt affect their lives. nobody really wants to spend vast sums of money for something that wont do ANYTHING for them (in the short run at least)

 

[CaptnKirk]

Robots can do so much more in space exploration than a human can.

. . so lets compromise . . and send Gore.

 

[mdchesne]

Originally posted by: farmercal

we have a deficit of over $450 billion thanks to Bush and they want to send a $108billion mission to the moon? FOR WHAT? more stupid moonrocks?! It's not like they're going to construct anyhting useful there like, oh say, A SPACEPORT!

Wow, I thought it was in the Trillions! I guess we are doing pretty good if it is just in the billions.

maybe. the graph i found ended in 02. so by the slope of that graph at 02.... yea, we'd be in the trillions, you're right

 

[Pantoot]

Originally posted by: mdchesne

Originally posted by: farmercal

we have a deficit of over $450 billion thanks to Bush and they want to send a $108billion mission to the moon? FOR WHAT? more stupid moonrocks?! It's not like they're going to construct anyhting useful there like, oh say, A SPACEPORT!

Wow, I thought it was in the Trillions! I guess we are doing pretty good if it is just in the billions.

maybe. the graph i found ended in 02. so by the slope of that graph at 02.... yea, we'd be in the trillions, you're right

The chart shows the deficit, not the debt.

 

[Bitek]

Going to the moon kicks ass, that's why. Better than the stupid sh1t we waste it on here on Earth. $104B? (over 10 yrs) We've spent more than that just since Memorial Day in Iraq, WTH did that buy us?

Going to Mars, the one good idea Bush ever had.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Robots can do so much more in space exploration than a human can.

But only a human can learn from space flight. We have to go there to learn to live there. This mission will be more then just exploration; it will be designed to test our ability to build a permanent base there. It will be laying the foundation to us finally colonizing other worlds.
I am with the others that say that 13 years is too long. It only took us nine to get there the first time. Increase NASA?s budget, and let us go to the stars!
BTW ? for those complaining about how much it costs, I would remind you that NASA has ALWAYS produced an extremely large profit for its expenditure, and it is one of the only government projects to do so.

 

[MadRat]

Kirk summed it up, send Al. Seriously, who the **** cares if its human or robot? The truth is the manned mission is a complete waste of limited resources when an unmanned project can do much more for the same cost. I'd rather let my kids generation worry about the choice for manned space exploration than see my generation screw theirs over with a mounting debt.

 

[Polish3d]

They want to consider a base on the moon IIRC


Also in an essay by Don Rumsfeld he speaks about "Space Forces"

 

[redhatlinux]

While this is somewhat new news to the general public, I had the scoop from a buddy months ago. He has had top security clearance for 30 years. The lunar rover will be the mars rover as well. The plan is to sling shot off the moon to mars.

 

[eilute]

We should scrap all manned space flights. The money would be better spent on other scientific endeavors, such as fusion energy. Remember, oil is $65 a barrel and going up (rocket fuel is not cheap). With out efficient fusion energy human space human flight might never become economical.

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: MadRat
Kirk summed it up, send Al. Seriously, who the **** cares if its human or robot? The truth is the manned mission is a complete waste of limited resources when an unmanned project can do much more for the same cost. I'd rather let my kids generation worry about the choice for manned space exploration than see my generation screw theirs over with a mounting debt.

QF BS:|

 

[Paratus]

I'd stay and debate this but I have to pack frickin Rita is coming my way :|

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: Paratus

Originally posted by: MadRat
Kirk summed it up, send Al. Seriously, who the **** cares if its human or robot? The truth is the manned mission is a complete waste of limited resources when an unmanned project can do much more for the same cost. I'd rather let my kids generation worry about the choice for manned space exploration than see my generation screw theirs over with a mounting debt.

QF BS:|

Rita might have chased you away today, but the truth is that putting a man into the mission adds a mountain of waste.

 

[mdchesne]

Originally posted by: Pantoot


The chart shows the deficit, not the debt.

w/e, still saying bush should stop spending sh1t

 

[drinkmorejava]

Originally posted by: farmercal

we have a deficit of over $450 billion thanks to Bush and they want to send a $108billion mission to the moon? FOR WHAT? more stupid moonrocks?! It's not like they're going to construct anyhting useful there like, oh say, A SPACEPORT!

Wow, I thought it was in the Trillions! I guess we are doing pretty good if it is just in the billions.

Ok, know how your country works 101. The deficit is how much more money is being spent than what tax revenue will bring in this year. Although not completely accurate, you could say the national debts is the sum of all of the deficits in previous years.

If you bothered to read the first post, you would know, THE 104 BILLION IS OUT OF NASA's BUDGET, THERE IS NO NEW HUGEASS TAX BILL OR BORROWING OF MONEY.