Manager quitting a job

[Stopsignhank]

So it seems that the answer to the question, is it customary for a manager to give 4 weeks notice, is a No.

Thanks all for your comments. It has actually been a pretty busy day and I could not respond. There is actually more to my story. I started there in 1993. In 2000 I quit because life was rough with my kids. My son is autistic and daughter had medical problems. They made a part time position for me and worked around my family schedule. I got caught up in a layoff in 2003. In 2010 my kids were old enough so I tried to get a job. No one would give me an interview. I called up this company and they took me back. 5 years ago they made me a manager. So there is a big history with this company.

The last couple of years have not been good. The last year was really bad. I won't go into details, but I decided that it was time for me to get the heck out of there. There were multiple offers of what they could do for me to stay, but I almost quit without a job a couple of months ago. It is certaoinly not a money thing that would make me stay. I think I am actually going to be making a little bit less at my new job, but it is a matter of quality of life. Life is too short. Plus at my age if I wait any longer I will be too old to make a change. People won't want to interview me and my salary will be too much.

What is interesting is that the new job actually moved the hire date back a week, so I will give the old place 3 more days and actually get a couple more days off between jobs. That is a win win.

 

[Stopsignhank]

Mostly agree. I'd probably decide to err on the side of giving at least as much respect.

Perhaps as a compromise you can offer to respond to emailed questions for another two weeks.

I have never liked the "what can we do to keep you" question. It comes across to me as an admission that they have been knowingly undervaluing my contribution and are only going to treat me fairly when they are forced to. I also suspect they will claw back as much as they can during subsequent performance appraisals and pay raises.

I have been back for 10 years and I have only had two performance evaluations. One of those was a 90 performance review for my promotion 5 years ago.

What is interesting is that they are now talking about hiring two people to replace me. Yeah, that irks me.

 

[PowerEngineer]

What is interesting is that they are now talking about hiring two people to replace me. Yeah, that irks me.

Yes, I've had that happen too. I agree it can be a bit irksome, but you can also take it as a sincere (although belated) recognition of the quantity and quality of your work.

Your rationale for moving on to a new job at this time makes good sense to me. Best of luck!

 

[BoomerD]

I've always been willing to give a company the same amount of notice that they would be willing to give me if they let me go. None. I've given actual notice twice in my working career. Once, when leaving a job working for the local electrical utility where I had been for 7 years...they got a week. The other time was when I quit a job to start my union apprenticeship. They also got a week...not because I was a dick, but because that was the amount of time I had before starting the new job.
Otherwise, the boss was lucky if I told him the morning I was leaving instead of at the end of the day. "Oh, by the way, I won't be here on Monday. I'm starting a new job. Mail my check."

 

[EliteRetard]

I have been back for 10 years and I have only had two performance evaluations. One of those was a 90 performance review for my promotion 5 years ago.

What is interesting is that they are now talking about hiring two people to replace me. Yeah, that irks me.

Heh at my last job they literally hired 8 people to replace me, each one making 50-300% more.
They still couldn't reproduce my quality either.

I know that sounds insane, but it's 100% true...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You’re under no obligation to give them 4 weeks notice. If times were tough and they had to lay you off, would they give you 4 weeks notice or even 2 weeks notice?

With that being said, you can always offer to answer emails for a few weeks after you leave. PowerEngineer’s suggestions a few posts above mine are great and I advise you to take his suggestions to heart. NEVER accept a counteroffer designed to keep you - it hardly ever works out.

 

[Stopsignhank]

You’re under no obligation to give them 4 weeks notice. If times were tough and they had to lay you off, would they give you 4 weeks notice or even 2 weeks notice?

With that being said, you can always offer to answer emails for a few weeks after you leave. PowerEngineer’s suggestions a few posts above mine are great and I advise you to take his suggestions to heart. NEVER accept a counteroffer designed to keep you - it hardly ever works out.

In 2003 when I was working here part time they did lay me off. After they let me go there was a drawing that the fire department needed so I stayed for an hour or so and finished it.

I will always answer emails from them. Although that means I have to give them my email address. Nobody here has it. Although to be honest they will probably just text me their questions.

Now my main concern is that I am starting a new job that services the airline industry and we could have a crash in the economy coming very soon.

 

[PowerEngineer]

I will always answer emails from them. Although that means I have to give them my email address. Nobody here has it. Although to be honest they will probably just text me their questions.

FWIW I would not respond to their texts or phone calls after I started my new job; just emails. You can also consider setting up a new email account specifically for their use; no need to share your personal email address.

 

[GrumpyMan]

If they fired or layed you off I don't believe they would give you 2 weeks. If you think you may have to go back then I might think about it. But if not, what's the point?

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

Anyone in a position of significant responsibility should definitely give more than 2 weeks. Two weeks is great for training a replacement for a low-skill position. If you're in management, best to just give them 4 weeks. It's going to be harder to find a replacement for you than some Joe Blow down on the assembly line. Then, once they're found and courted, you're going to have to prepare them and train them (or should, if your goal is to leave in a professional manner).

 

[ShookKnight]

One thing they asked was that in my position it is customary to give more notice and help to find my replacement. They have asked if I can make it 4 weeks instead of 2.

Is this true? I don't think so, just looking at what others think. I do not burn bridges. I am 55 and this is literally the only professional job I have quit. But then this is only my second job also.

No, it's not. It's customary to give 2 weeks - period.

They are trying to take advantage of you. 4 weeks will turn to 6 and then 8 and then, whatever.

You gave your notice, move on.

 

[Stopsignhank]

These past two weeks have been weird. I just don't really care anymore. Mainly the time has been spent documenting what I do and making the company policy to respond to COVID-19. Then corporate issued new guidelines and I am out of the loop on that.

As far as what they said about the 4 weeks so i could help find my replacement. Well that is bullshit because they have had one or two interviews and I was not involved in them. In fact one of the interviews is someone who I interviewed about a year ago. I said that I did not hire her when she told me that she falsified safety documents. End of story for me on that one. Well they went ahead with the interview.

One thing that sucks is that it sure seems like a bad time to be changing jobs. But then I started this before the world started crashing. Will have to see if there is a job for me. I am taking a week between this job and the new one and a whole hell of a lot can happen in the next two weeks.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

These past two weeks have been weird. I just don't really care anymore. Mainly the time has been spent documenting what I do and making the company policy to respond to COVID-19. Then corporate issued new guidelines and I am out of the loop on that.

As far as what they said about the 4 weeks so i could help find my replacement. Well that is bullshit because they have had one or two interviews and I was not involved in them. In fact one of the interviews is someone who I interviewed about a year ago. I said that I did not hire her when she told me that she falsified safety documents. End of story for me on that one. Well they went ahead with the interview.

One thing that sucks is that it sure seems like a bad time to be changing jobs. But then I started this before the world started crashing. Will have to see if there is a job for me. I am taking a week between this job and the new one and a whole hell of a lot can happen in the next two weeks.

Definitely a bad time bud.

I have a friend that I was about to get hired at my employer for a similar position to mine... Made it through all the interviews, etc... My manager liked him... Next week he was told by HR there is a 30-day hiring freeze across the board.

 

[alcoholbob]

Same, was just about to get a job offer when the company told me they are shut down and in a hiring freeze. When this all blows over, I wonder if there will even be a job offer if the economy is in tatters. Might be better for people currently employed to just ride it out for another quarter or two before doing anything risky like changing jobs.

 

[JEDI]

I should say we are a smaller company. 170 people total and 140 of those are production people. I already have another job and I have told them that I would start on the 25th. That is 2 weeks here and then 1 week between jobs.

there's your answer.
no to 4 weeks because you start of your new job start date.
and no, I haven't heard of 4weeks notice either.

have you tried google for an answer?

 

[nakedfrog]

there's your answer.
no to 4 weeks because you start of your new job start date.
and no, I haven't heard of 4weeks notice either.

have you tried google?

You mean he should see if google will accept him for a job offer?

 

[Stopsignhank]

Well today is computer clean up day. The day to get rid of all the files people don't need to see and pictures. I take a lot of pictures at work. The vast majority are fine, but I took several selfies on my business trips to China last year. The new person does not need to see those.