• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Managed Switch ?

N

ncage

Golden Member
Guys i don't know that much about managed switched. I decided i wanted to get a managed switch primarily for VLAN abilities. I also think the QOS abilities will become usefully (especially if a build a iSCSI SAN). I need anywhere from a 16-24 port switch. I'm wanting to not have any less speed/functionality than my current dumb switch so i need all ports to be gigabit and want 9000kb jumbo packet support. I've been searching the past few days on ebay and other places. It looks like i'm going to have to pay around the $200 dollar mark for what i'm wanting.
This dell swtich seems to be like a pretty good fit:
http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/...px?refid=switch-powerconnect-2824&s=bsd&cs=04

I also look at this switch from trendnet:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_i=507846

But i took it off my list after i found out you loose jumbo packet support after you turn QOS on.

So i'm basically here to see if i'm making a good decision or i should be looking at something else. I've been reading about managed switched and i understand some features but not others. I don't know what the difference is between Layer 2 and Layer 3 switches. I'm pretty sure i don't need POE. I do want a web managed console ( i think all of them do this) and definitely don't want to manage anything from any type of command prompt or shell.

When you look at dells' line of manged switches:
http://www.dell.com/business/networking

You will see the "Web-Managed" switches like the 2824 i linked above which are cheaper and then the managed internet switches which are a lot more expensive. I'm assuming these are just going to have a lot more features than i need?

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks,
Ncage
 
You don't use QoS with iSCSI, you give it it's own separate LAN. Unless you are doing multi SAN replication, and even then it is a 'last resort' type thing. The cheap dells are hit or miss. Is this for home or business? For home there isn't much need for a managed switch.
 
imagoon said:
You don't use QoS with iSCSI, you give it it's own separate LAN. Unless you are doing multi SAN replication, and even then it is a 'last resort' type thing. The cheap dells are hit or miss. Is this for home or business? For home there isn't much need for a managed switch.
Click to expand...

Home and i like i said i do want VLAN support. QOS IS just an bonus. I do a lot of research where i need the network segregation.
 
Arghhh i figured out what the layer 3 stuff is about. Layer 3 allows you to route traffic between VLAN.....something i probably want unless the cost is to much to bear.
 
ncage said:
Arghhh i figured out what the layer 3 stuff is about. Layer 3 allows you to route traffic between VLAN.....something i probably want unless the cost is to much to bear.
Click to expand...
if $500 is too much, then layer 3 is out of your price range. you can still route between VLANs using a "router on a stick", however your router would need to support dot1q.
 
jlazzaro said:
if $500 is too much, then layer 3 is out of your price range. you can still route between VLANs using a "router on a stick", however your router would need to support dot1q.
Click to expand...

Yeah, and performance will be terrible between the networks if you do.
 
Well still looking at the dell powerconnect because of cost mainly. Mainly looking at used on ebay. Can get the 5224 for about $100, the 5324 for about $150 and the 5424 for about $350 which pretty much different generations of the same switch. Now would the 5224 be good enough (all are layer 3 by the way).
 
ncage said:
Well still looking at the dell powerconnect because of cost mainly. Mainly looking at used on ebay. Can get the 5224 for about $100, the 5324 for about $150 and the 5424 for about $350 which pretty much different generations of the same switch. Now would the 5224 be good enough (all are layer 3 by the way).
Click to expand...

Cisco 3550s are used on Ebay for between $200 and $350 depending on featureset. And they're WAY better than the Dell switches.

Dell switches are TERRIBLE at VLANs and trunking.
 
drebo, please show me where I can get a used 3550 with 24 gigabit ports for $200 to $350. From what I see, that's the price point for that many ports of 10/100, which is not what the OP is comparing to.

The Dell 2xxx web-managed switches have been very buggy in my personal experience, though I haven't used the 28xx series.
 
AFIAK 3550 didn't have a 24 port gig model. Remember they came out in like 2003. They are ancient and end of life.
 
spidey07, true, true. My point was that comparing a new $200 10/100/1000 web-managed switch to a used $200 10/100 managed switch is not really a helpful comparison, they're so different.

(In 2010, I can't see there being much point in buying a managed 10/100 switch, which I think the multitude of cheap listings on eBay would agree with. Unless maybe for PoE, but that would be different switches than what we're talking about.)
 
cmetz said:
spidey07, true, true. My point was that comparing a new $200 10/100/1000 web-managed switch to a used $200 10/100 managed switch is not really a helpful comparison, they're so different.

(In 2010, I can't see there being much point in buying a managed 10/100 switch, which I think the multitude of cheap listings on eBay would agree with. Unless maybe for PoE, but that would be different switches than what we're talking about.)
Click to expand...

Yeah. If you want a quality managed switch that does what it is supposed to do with 24 ports of gigE it's going to cost a pretty penny even at today's prices.

If one wants a dumb 24 port gigE switch with good performance for a home user then the price point lowers significantly. All those features cost money.
 
Last edited:
cmetz said:
drebo, please show me where I can get a used 3550 with 24 gigabit ports for $200 to $350. From what I see, that's the price point for that many ports of 10/100, which is not what the OP is comparing to.

The Dell 2xxx web-managed switches have been very buggy in my personal experience, though I haven't used the 28xx series.
Click to expand...

Ive also had bad experiences with the dell switches in general. There is a reason they are so cheap, and it aint because dell doesnt like to make money
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top