misuspita
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For us europeans, quote the story, website does not work in EU
SMOGZINN
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Hayabusa Rider
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In one of his most forceful attacks on the special counsel yet, Rudy Giuliani on Friday claimed the Russia investigation could get “cleaned up” with pardons from President Trump in light Paul Manafort being sent to jail.
“When the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons,” the former New York mayor told the Daily News.
Giuliani’s stunning remark came hours after a Washington, D.C., judge revoked Manafort’s bail and ordered him to remain behind bars while awaiting his September trial on charges relating to his shady pro-Russian business dealings in Ukraine. The ruling came after Robert Mueller’s investigators alleged Manafort had attempted to tamper with witnesses in the Russia investigation.
Giuliani, who worked as a federal prosecutor for nearly a decade, claimed he had seen no evidence to warrant Manafort being sent to jail.
“I don’t understand the justification for putting him in jail,” Giuliani, 74, said. “You put a guy in jail if he’s trying to kill witnesses, not just talking to witnesses.”
Giuliani, who serves as Trump’s personal lawyer, doubled down on his previous call to end Mueller’s investigation.
“That kind of investigation should not go forward,” Giuliani said. “It’s time for Justice to investigate the investigators.”
MomentsofSanity
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KMFJD
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I'm not sure if there is one, i'm just using the imgur extension in chrome, maybe there is an android version
zinfamous
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From the reaction I think it is safe to assume that Manafort has info that could bring the whole house of cards down on his own. The great cheeto is scared shitless by this turn of events.
zinfamous
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Trump didn't "become;" he was born in that position. Without daddy's money, his failure after failure after failure would have sunk him...actually, it did. I think he was essentially flat-out broke before NBC showed up and miraculously bailed him out with the Apprentice, which went on being successful. Those that know this guy (his earlier biographers/writers), talk about how Trump Inc was nearing liquidation due to massive debt obligations (US banks had already refused to lend to him, as he is basically a crook).
His laziness and incompetence, total lack of curiosity about the world (he is essentially illiterate--it is reported that his daily briefings are basically Ikea/Denny's menu-like pictograms), is represented by the fact that he is by all accounts, a failed businessmen. His only success in life has been as a money launderer for Eastern European oligarchs and reality TV goon.
This is all pretty much true. It is, point of fact, far closer to reality than what he wants you to believe about him and what his fluffiest fluffers desperately convince themselves to be true.
zinfamous
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Imagine if the inheritance tax were at the appropriate ~95% rate. This corpulent fuckstick would have been penniless and unheard-of by humanity, the world having long been better off for it.
WelshBloke
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zinfamous
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You know how conservatives are always like: "Google it! Do the research yourself! I ain't doing it for you! I already done it!"
Seems like none of them actually like to do that. One might think they are just basing all of their claims on feels, and things like "work" or even "facts" simply scare and confuse them.
WelshBloke
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zinfamous
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If it takes any single GOP Congressman longer than 5 minutes to respond to a comment like that from Giuliani by invoking the outright necessity of impeachment in that scenario, then each one of them is a fucking traitor.
zinfamous
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Holding out pardons may be witness tampering by Giuliani. Charging him would be a thing of beauty.
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zinfamous
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Guiliani is just running cover. I still don't know what his end game is. I thought that maybe he was looking to try to become top Republican or something after the ashes they'll be in after Turmp, but he's now making sure he'll be lumped in with that mess. Unless he's still gathering stuff so he can flip on Turmp and then spin it as he was some super patriot, putting the country above all.
Is he doing it for some other entity? Israel maybe? I can't imagine he'd be dumb enough to take a boatload of money from the Russians or basically anyone that is likely going to be under surveillance (specifically with regards to payments) after all of this shit. Plus he's opening himself (and anyone he's associated with) to scrutiny.
Yeah, yet if Comey had done something like that for a Democrat and suddenly it would be proof of absolute collusion. Fucking hypocrites. Plus, you know, nevermind when Obama himself fucking did that with Flynn and Turmp then tried to triple down on being stupid about that.
You ignore a 3rd option, that Turmp openly floated the desire to work with such people and Putin (via back channels with other Russian people that Turmp already had dealings) was more than happy to provide them.
He's fairly predictable really. He'll say something monumentally stupid basically at least once a day. Anything positive he does he'll shit all over it by being a raging asshole. He'll demand loyalty even when its potentially criminally liable. Make claims that are easily provable to be not true (I'm guessing he talked with the parents of the soldiers of the War of 1812 before condemning Canada as a national security threat?). Have Sarah Wildebeast Hucklberry Hound Sanders run cover by lying or just ignoring anything he doesn't want to have to talk about. And he'll play a lot of golf before running off to make tax payers pay for him to sit on his fatass watching Fox News at his properties, and then he'll rage on Twitter the following morning. He'll make a fool of himself (and the US) at any international meeting. He's still campaigning for the 2016 election despite his constant insistence that he won it (which of course makes all his cultists' chide reminders that he did win seem more that they're still trying to convince themselves most of all). He'll praise Putin/defend Russia. Oh and don't forget blame Hilary/Obama.
Is he doing it for some other entity? Israel maybe? I can't imagine he'd be dumb enough to take a boatload of money from the Russians or basically anyone that is likely going to be under surveillance (specifically with regards to payments) after all of this shit. Plus he's opening himself (and anyone he's associated with) to scrutiny.
Yeah, yet if Comey had done something like that for a Democrat and suddenly it would be proof of absolute collusion. Fucking hypocrites. Plus, you know, nevermind when Obama himself fucking did that with Flynn and Turmp then tried to triple down on being stupid about that.
You ignore a 3rd option, that Turmp openly floated the desire to work with such people and Putin (via back channels with other Russian people that Turmp already had dealings) was more than happy to provide them.
He's fairly predictable really. He'll say something monumentally stupid basically at least once a day. Anything positive he does he'll shit all over it by being a raging asshole. He'll demand loyalty even when its potentially criminally liable. Make claims that are easily provable to be not true (I'm guessing he talked with the parents of the soldiers of the War of 1812 before condemning Canada as a national security threat?). Have Sarah Wildebeast Hucklberry Hound Sanders run cover by lying or just ignoring anything he doesn't want to have to talk about. And he'll play a lot of golf before running off to make tax payers pay for him to sit on his fatass watching Fox News at his properties, and then he'll rage on Twitter the following morning. He'll make a fool of himself (and the US) at any international meeting. He's still campaigning for the 2016 election despite his constant insistence that he won it (which of course makes all his cultists' chide reminders that he did win seem more that they're still trying to convince themselves most of all). He'll praise Putin/defend Russia. Oh and don't forget blame Hilary/Obama.
Hayabusa Rider
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Phokus
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Hayabusa Rider
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Obfuscation is the end game. While things are going on we're talking about Rudy and the foolish person he's become. It also inspires the minions.
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