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Made with the dissolved and fermented parts of fish, broken dreams, and batshit crazy. Mmmmmmmm....
SA makes money when oil is above ~35 barrel, not 80
all the $50 barrels are doing is cutting into their margins
all the $50 barrels are doing is cutting into their margins
BeauJangles
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Siddhartha
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
if by favorite, you actually mean least favorite, then i agree
I was looking more at entertainment value. He reminds me of Butterbean. He's not nearly as crazy BB is and I've seen no evidence that he's a desperately closeted homosexual, but he's got the same earnest way of trying to show everyone something he believes the world needs to know, that just happens to be dumb and insane. I really like that.
Oil lower = less income for Oil Nations = they buy less US Treasuries = dollar crisis
USA needs the world to buy a ton of our debt everyday to keep our game going. The equation above could have significant impact.
USA needs the world to buy a ton of our debt everyday to keep our game going. The equation above could have significant impact.
Arkaign
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I don't give much credence to the premise put forth in the OP. The mention of SA needing $80/bbl oil to survive is patently preposterous.
That said, the Bilderberg group is ghastly, just as the Bohemian Grove group, Skull & Bones, etc.
These kinds of elite power meetings should ideally not be happening, as it concentrates global policy within a handful of interconnected, insulated, self-loyal bastards.
I'm not saying that they're secretly planning another holocaust, hiding UFOs, or any of that nonsense, but it just seems to pervert the democratic process and the reward of an individuals virtues over political/power connections.
For anyone who doubts the power of these kinds of groups. Election 2004. In a nation of ~300 million people, the ONLY viable selections in the general election are two members of the same rarefied college fraternity, with a known circle of incredibly powerful figures? The chances of that are simply astronomical.
BeauJangles
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So I guess we should also throw Harvard, Yale, and Princeton in with those "ghastly" groups because they tend to produce powerful people. I'm sorry, but the idea that these individuals run the world, or the country, is insane. Going to a prestigious university and being part of an organization with other wealthy people gives you a leg-up on the competition, especially in the fund-raising department. It gives you access to all sorts of connections you wouldn't otherwise have. That's it. It's not like they give you "the book" titled "Controlling the World For Dummies."
There just isn't some global power cabal that seeks to destroy the world. Sorry, but it's nearly impossible. Look at what guys like k3N claim: these groups control the world through the world's governments. I guess it's feasible that they have a gun to Bush's head, but how do we explain that the president is pretty handicapped without the aid of Congress. How do these groups of elites tell Congress what to vote for? Do they literally pass out memos that have check marks next to the bills that should be passed and if you disagree they kill your family? I find that highly, highly, highly unlikely, especially considering how many people are involved in the legislative process. You're talking about Senators, representatives, and their aides. Everyone is in on it? No way.
Arkaign
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Re-read what I wrote. I didn't once say that they are overtly malicious or murderous, just self-loyal, and loyal to the group before anything else.
Also didn't say that Harvard, Yale, Princeton at large were part of the groups I'm talking about. Skull & Bones is a very old, invitation-only power group, one only needs to look at the leaders produced by that group to see the influence they hold.
Basically all levels of western/US government are *heavily* influenced or directly controlled by members of : S&B, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, and so forth. That's not saying that they conspire to do evil things, but that they conspire to achieve power is undeniable. It's their whole purpose for being.
It gets really bizarre when you look at their rituals (not the Bilderberg group, but the Bohemian Grove and Skull & Bones). A lot of their rituals are based on ancient pagan types, and involve chanting, repetition of words in unison, burning things, icons of death/decay/rebirth, and so on. From a purely neutral perspective, these things are fascinating and somewhat bizarre.
Ask yourself : why would world government and business leaders need to meet annually in conditions of extreme secrecy? Why do so many of their cadre end up in positions of spectacular power?
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, as a matter of fact I've not put forth any notion of wrong-doing by these people against the laws of nations. Rather, I am abhorrent against the insulation of power and influence by a class of society that segregates itself from the constituency of the populations that they conspire to govern and profit from. IMHO, it's the worst kind of elitism, as it excludes to a great deal the common or even exceptional men and women that would otherwise gain positions based upon merit rather than conspiratorial connections. Merit > cronyism/in-the-club appointments.
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