Man what is the RIAA thinking?

[Hayabusa Rider]

I have bought 2 cds in 2 years. The reason is that I am anti RIAA, not because of P2P. I sometimes download music, but just to see if I like it. In the days of napster, I downloaded a lot, then BOUGHT the music I liked. When Metallica became the recording industrys mouthpiece, I rarely bother with downloading or buying music. I listen to shoutcast type servers and my cable company has digital stations I feed into my receiver.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I hate most of the music on their labels. I have bought maybe 10 - 15 CD's this year, and I'm almost certain that not one of them is in any way associated with RIAA. The music that I like is on independent labels. I have dloaded songs from every band out of those 10 - 15 CD's as well, but they still go their money. It is such obscure music that I would have never even bought their CD's if it weren't for mp3's. It's not like there are alot of indie bands on the radio .

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: kt
blah.. just read the Microsoft research on filesharing. RIAA is fighting a hopeless battle.

Link?

 

[SludgeFactory]

The $18-$20 that is thrown out there when we're talking about the evil RIAA is basically true only if you're a dumbass. New major label releases are consistently going for $10-$12 at Target, Best Buy etc. Most back catalog stuff can be bought for under $15 at these types of places or online. I've haven't bought a CD at Sam Goody or any mall store in years because it's a ripoff.

A complete BMG order averages out to about $4.50 per CD if you only buy the minimum requirement. Used CD's are another option in the $5-$10 range. But people that have never bought a CD in their life, rely on P2P to pirate everything, and expect free music probably don't care. To them, the fair price for a CD is "free".

It's fine to hate the RIAA and their tactics, and the corporatization of music and it's stifling of creativity. And you can pirate all the music you want, it doesn't really matter to me. But engaging in copyright infringement and then making it out to be some political statement against "the man" is bullsh!t and we all know it.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Well, from this thread you can infer that many people are like bmacd and refuse to pay even $10 for a CD, and others like Nukey plan to buy, copy, and re-sell their CDs (then perhaps even share their backups via P2P).

The RIAA are scum, but with so many people willing to "infringe" to get their CDs and not willing to pay even $10 for a legal copy, I'm afraid P2P caps are a necessary evil. It's too bad, since it ruins sharing for the few people who use it just to preview CDs before buying them.

hey genius, at $15 + shipping or tax per cd, do you honestly think people will WANT to buy cds? At $5 a disc, i'd buy like crazy.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: Zakath15
They're allowed to fix prices however they wish. If you don't want the music, don't buy it.

Supply and demand - their bottom line will feel the impact once the price is high enough.

That's exactly what's happening.. but instead of blaming themselves for setting the price too high, the RIAA is blaming filesharing for their loss of profits.

Aye, they are. However, that is their issue, and their downfall.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory But people that have never bought a CD in their life, rely on P2P to pirate everything, and expect free music probably don't care. To them, the fair price for a CD is "free".

It's fine to hate the RIAA and their tactics, and the corporatization of music and it's stifling of creativity. And you can pirate all the music you want, it doesn't really matter to me. But engaging in copyright infringement and then making it out to be some political statement against "the man" is bullsh!t and we all know it.

Say it again! It sounded so sweet the way you did....
Amen, SludgeFactory, well said....

 

[silverpig]

real audiophile used in the same paragraph as linkin park???

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: silverpig
real audiophile used in the same paragraph as linkin park???

lol... I meant it only in the sense that I can't stand flat, static-filled, or low quality sounding music.... I would agree that my taste in music is questionable

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: silverpig
real audiophile used in the same paragraph as linkin park???

lol... I meant it only in the sense that I can't stand flat, static-filled, or low quality sounding music.... I would agree that my taste in music is questionable

Some of the CDs i've heard are crap too...Compressed beyond all limits

 

[conjur]

Record companies (well, the execs) are just scared that they will soon be out of their huge salaries and bonuses as artists move to digital/electronic distribution of their work and do it themselves (or through some mgmt they hire themselves). Once a band trusts the security of electronic distribution or pressing their own CDs, who needs a record company?

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: silverpig real audiophile used in the same paragraph as linkin park???

lol... I meant it only in the sense that I can't stand flat, static-filled, or low quality sounding music.... I would agree that my taste in music is questionable

Some of the CDs i've heard are crap too...Compressed beyond all limits

Yeah I've heard stuff like that too.... like Adema's CD... sounded horrible to me..

EDIT: Oh wait... now I understand

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: conjur
Record companies (well, the execs) are just scared that they will soon be out of their huge salaries and bonuses as artists move to digital/electronic distribution of their work and do it themselves (or through some mgmt they hire themselves). Once a band trusts the security of electronic distribution or pressing their own CDs, who needs a record company?

Yeah ain't that the truth. !

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: conjur
Record companies (well, the execs) are just scared that they will soon be out of their huge salaries and bonuses as artists move to digital/electronic distribution of their work and do it themselves (or through some mgmt they hire themselves). Once a band trusts the security of electronic distribution or pressing their own CDs, who needs a record company?

This is the day I want to see. In the 70's there were radio stations playing about everything. Someone would call and say "How about playing Band X?" Know what? the DJ (Yeah real people at a radio station) might say something like "Great idea, lets do the entire latest album." Can you imagine that today? No, most radio stations are owned by a few large concerns, and they work closely with the RIAA. Nothing gets heard unless the RIAA sanctions it. They not only control revenue, but the art. You cannot support what you have never heard. Give me a real choice. I would pay for that.

 

[LordMaul]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Well, from this thread you can infer that many people are like bmacd and refuse to pay even $10 for a CD, and others like Nukey plan to buy, copy, and re-sell their CDs (then perhaps even share their backups via P2P).

The RIAA are scum, but with so many people willing to "infringe" to get their CDs and not willing to pay even $10 for a legal copy, I'm afraid P2P caps are a necessary evil. It's too bad, since it ruins sharing for the few people who use it just to preview CDs before buying them.

When a 10-song CD is more expensive than a 2 hour DVD with a CRAPLOAD of stuff like deleted scenes, commercials, etc., then you have a problem.

Ex.) 12.99 is normal price for many DVDs around here, whereas 15.99 is normal for CDs.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: LordMaul


When a 10-song CD is more expensive than a 2 hour DVD with a CRAPLOAD of stuff like deleted scenes, commercials, etc., then you have a problem.

Ex.) 12.99 is normal price for many DVDs around here, whereas 15.99 is normal for CDs.

But do you watch the same movie over and over for days/weeks on end? I could listen to the same CD in my car for like a week or two. That could be one of their reasons.

The thing that pi**es me off is charging $5-10 more for a DVD than the same movie on VHS. The different in the cost of the material is negligible and the content is not always much different (not all movies have deleted scenes/commentaries/etc.).

 

[UglyCasanova]

My favorite record company. I always post this in RIAA threads. We need more independant labels.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: dparker
My favorite record company. I always post this in RIAA threads. We need more independant labels.

Yeah...but how long to rip an LP as VBR MP3?

 

[Led Zeppelin]

From what I saw at Circuit City this past Friday, people are MORE than willing to buy CD's, if they lower the price of them. They had their Black Friday price at 9.99 for CD's, and people were buying 6 or 7 at a time. Instead of attacking all of the p2p programs, maybe they should start looking at their industry as a whole, and maybe try lowering the prices of new CD's.

 

[technogeeky]

Man what is the RIAA thinking?

How else can we screw artists and consumers out of their money?

 

[nyeturo989]

jus gimme the loot!

 

[johneetrash]

Originally posted by: UCDznutz

Originally posted by: virtuamike
Bah, just stop buying CDs altogether. Sooner or later the RIAA will run out of money and its lawyers will be sent packing. Besides you're not hurting the artist, it's not like they make that much off selling albums.

yeah i agree. I think they make most of their money doing live shows and selling merchandise

they do get most of their money from live shows/merch, but cds are very important for those kids that cant afford to get to shows to buy merch. they're there to get their music out and to the people, not for profit... which of course confuses me about artists that get mad that people DL their album off the net...

i have a few freinds in bands and they're rather you listen to the music by DLing it than not listening at all. it'd just be nice if you bought the cd

 

[Green Man]

It's really really weird that they are so PO'ed at everyone for using P2P networks. Ever since I started downloading songs off Kazaa I buy more and more CDs... Anyone care to guess why? Well I'm a real audiophile, and MP3s at 192kbps still sound flat to me

I agree. I buy way more CD's now that I can check out the songs before I buy. The radio stations only play a song or two off each new CD on the radio, and I'm not going to buy a CD based on one song, but if I like most of them, I'm getting it. I think that the RIAA could easily find a way to boost sagging sales if they embraced the technology.

As an aside, I wonder if they have anything to do with the viruses floating around on Kazaa ect... ???

 

[ReiAyanami]

Homeland Security Act -Brought to you by the RIAA. now hand over your MP3's, you terrorist!!