Man vs. Wild facing allegations of being "fake"

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Kaspian

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
It is an informational show designed for entertainment. I doubt seriously that anyone is watching this show taking notes in preparation for a trip into the wild. Do you suppose that people watch Discovery Health to learn how to perform surgery?

*hides the scalpel and folding table*

...uhhh...

LMAO:laugh:

 

Jeffwo

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It says on one of his commercials.."yeah, Bear Grill doesn't really have to do this stuff but maybe one day you might have to".
 

LTC8K6

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He's setting up situations and what to do if they happened to you. Sure HE didn't fall in the frozen lake because he knows what he's doing. Many people WOULD fall in the frozen lake and he's showing "what to do" IF that were to happen.

The frozen lake demo was fine. I'm talking about all the other unnecessary risks. All the climbing up and down trees and cliffs, running on rough terrain, jumping around on rocks, diving into rivers, running through the woods at night, etc.

Attempting to get kicked by a wild horse...

He does all sorts things that the average lost Joe should not do, imo.
 
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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
He's setting up situations and what to do if they happened to you. Sure HE didn't fall in the frozen lake because he knows what he's doing. Many people WOULD fall in the frozen lake and he's showing "what to do" IF that were to happen.

The frozen lake demo was fine. I'm talking about all the other unnecessary risks. All the climbing up and down trees and cliffs, running on rough terrain, jumping around on rocks, diving into rivers, running through the woods at night, etc.

Attempting to get kicked by a wild horse...

He does all sorts things that the average lost Joe should not do, imo.

like getting stranded from civilization?
 

DrPizza

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Still though, Survivorman gets really redundant.

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"Wow, I didn't expect it to get that cold last night. My shelter was really inadequate. I barely slept and spent most of the night shivering... Okay, I've gotta go carry my camera equipment. I'm going to have to go back and get the camera that took this shot. My cameras are heavy. Hey! I found and consumed 25 calories worth of food, it's not much, but it'll really get me going. Oh whoa is me, I have to go and get my camera from the top of that hill. Well, that was a little better of a night, my shelter was better and it didn't get as cold. But, that caused the bugs to come out. I barely slept because I spent most of the night slapping bugs on my face."

I don't know why I still find it entertaining, but it's really not that educational.
 

Kanalua

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He drank the fluid he squeezed out of elephant dung...

He drank the fluid he squeezed out of elephant dung...

HE DRANK THE FLUID HE SQUEEZED OUT OF ELEPHANT DUNG!!!!!
 

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Originally posted by: 49erinnc
Someone here created a thread awhile back about which was better, Man vs. Wild or Survivorman. I think back then, I was in favor of MvW. However, as I have watched more episodes, I find it to be pretty cheesy now. For example, there was on episode where his chute got caught up in a tree. I think it was like a 20' drop down for him but he had to cut the rope and fall. However, the camera never showed him cut it, nor did it show him fall. It went from him starting to cut the cords to him doing some roll on the ground. It was just so incredibly staged and that's when I started to lose interest in that show. I think that now, I watch it solely for learning survival skills. He definitely knows his stuff and it's neat learning how to tell time using natural objects or which plants have nutritional value, etc. Those things are pretty cool but as far as him surviving harsh elements and the stunts, I just can't take it serious..

Just for the record, they do show him using his reserve chute in order to lower himself halfway down, then he drops another ~20ft and rolls.

In that particular episode he also goes w/o a knife and flint.

I do hope they clear up the allegations. It would be extremely disappointing if he really was spending time in hotels.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Yea, it is definitely not real. He jumped into water with full gear on, for no reason, and then had to sleep in a pit surrounded by fire to stay warm and to dry his clothes. A real survivalist wouldn't have jumped in the damn water.

He does a lot of stuff to demonstrate, yes - but he still survives.
ie: jumped into a frozen-over pond to show how to get out of a broken-ice pond.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: KB
Also Survivorman is more hardcore. Les Stroud does the camera work himself.

He also only has to stay alive for 7 days and on one episode, he was given food from the start and that's all he hate over time
 

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If you pay attention to the credits, there is a "Survivor Expert" credit which has a different name for each episode. You'll also notice that Bear Grylls is credited as "Presenter". I do believe he has experience, but I think he is trained and informed of the area and its animals in great detail before he is dropped off. The whole point of the show is to inform us, which is why I think him being credited as "Presenter" is very appropriate.

I noticed this in the Ecuador Episode, and I actually searched the survival expert for that episode, which was Hazen Audel.

Turns out that Hazen Auden is a Teacher and has extended knowledge on rain forests and its animals.

Here is a link explaining his participation in the show.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com...al/story.asp?ID=199486

Full article http://www.spokesmanreview.com...story_pf.asp?ID=199486

Quotes from article
Audel would talk to producers about indigenous practices, like using a bow and arrow to kill a particular fish, and would make all the props for the next shoot, sometimes while everyone else was eating dinner.

Not everything on the show is authentic, however.

Producers insisted on having piranhas and electric eels in the Rio Napo for Grylls to face, even though they're not native to the part of the river where filming took place.

"I had to contact my friends that live four days way downriver in a motorized canoe to go catch piranhas and electric eels for the shoot," Audel said. "It became really involved. It was an adventure on its own."

While demonstrating for the film crew how Grylls could show the fish's teeth on camera, the piranha bit the end of Audel's thumb. Audel said it became a joke among the producers that their expert got his thumb bitten off.

After filming the eels and piranhas, which were kept in a designated area, the crew ate them to avoid releasing them into the river where they didn't belong.

"It's definitely Hollywood," Audel said of the program.

It has to be, though.

"You can't just have one guy with a camera shooting, because it would just bore people to death," he said.
 

0roo0roo

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theres a limit to the actual realism of survivorman, he can't act totally normal either because as he shows he spends like atleast half his time just shuffling his camera about and walking backwards to retrive the stationary camera:p