Man unable to use arms faces gun possession charge

JEDIYoda

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Is this just insane or what.....what good will come of this if it is prosecuted??
Who wins?
All it does is make the DA look like a blooming idiot!!



TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — A man who can't use his arms because of a spinal condition is being held in jail while facing a gun possession charge his lawyer calls shocking.


Bail was lowered Tuesday for Marcus Hubbard, who has been jailed since his arrest in Trenton in August.

Defense lawyer Caroline Turner said the case against Hubbard, who injured his spine in a car accident and may have Lou Gehrig's disease, "shocks the conscience."

"How could (he be) held for four months on a gun charge?" Turner said during the bail hearing. "He cannot move his arms. They are useless to him."

Hubbard, who's from Salem, has been hospitalized in protective custody since his arrest, The Times newspaper reported (http://bit.ly/1Gr2SKz ). He wore a back brace in court on Tuesday and had difficulty standing, the newspaper said.

Authorities say Hubbard and three other men were in a car that ran a red light in Trenton and was pulled over. They say inside the car police officers found a stolen handgun in a seatback pocket and a prescription bottle of codeine. All four men were charged after none of them took responsibility for the items.


http://news.yahoo.com/man-unable-arms-faces-gun-possession-charge-214709562.html

A state judge agreed during Tuesday's hearing to lower Hubbard's bail from $100,000 to $35,000. But Turner said she'll continue her efforts to have Hubbard freed without bail.

Police said the gun was stolen from Anchorage, Alaska. Turner said the other men arrested in the car with Hubbard told police it didn't belong to him and he shouldn't be charged.

Prosecutors acknowledged Hubbard has no use of his hands but said he still could be guilty of a crime.

Turner said prosecutors are misstating constructive possession laws, which allow charges for someone who isn't possessing an item but can and intends to exert control over it himself or through other people, The Times reported.
 
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DrDoug

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Too bad the dude wasn't in a vehicle accident with a government employee. He could have sued the government for taking away his ability to exercise his right to bear arms.
 

Jaskalas

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A completely disabled person... "could still be guilty of a crime".

My only response to that insanity is anger. People of that locale need to chase their elected officials out of the country.
 

Moonbeam

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The law is the law is the law. He isn't being charged for gun possession as in had a gun in his hand, but for being in a car with a stolen gun in it that nobody would take responsibility for. It is obstruction of justice to shield others when a crime has obviously been committed. He wouldn't say who was responsible for a stolen gun being in the car. Unless there are a lot of gun nuts on the jury who choose to ignore the law, I would imagine he will be found guilty.
 

JEDIYoda

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The law is the law is the law. He isn't being charged for gun possession as in had a gun in his hand, but for being in a car with a stolen gun in it that nobody would take responsibility for. It is obstruction of justice to shield others when a crime has obviously been committed. He wouldn't say who was responsible for a stolen gun being in the car. Unless there are a lot of gun nuts on the jury who choose to ignore the law, I would imagine he will be found guilty.
shhhhhh....don`t bring any sort of sane reasoning into this thread..lol
 

Matt1970

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The law is the law is the law. He isn't being charged for gun possession as in had a gun in his hand, but for being in a car with a stolen gun in it that nobody would take responsibility for. It is obstruction of justice to shield others when a crime has obviously been committed. He wouldn't say who was responsible for a stolen gun being in the car. Unless there are a lot of gun nuts on the jury who choose to ignore the law, I would imagine he will be found guilty.

Wholy crap!! Moonbeam actually had an opinion on a topic.
 

z1ggy

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I guess the snitches get stitches rule is in full effect. Sad this person will most likely pay for his decision not to rat out his friend.

Months in jail probably better than getting the shit kicked out of you later on, or worse.
 

Kwatt

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So, If someone gives you a ride and there is a body in the trunk. Even if you don't know it is there you get charged?



Also, they lowered the bail after 4 months? Maybe they just got the bill from the hospital and would rather not be on the hook any longer. Were I him, I would not even atempt to make bail. Let the state/county take up the medical care till the trial. And plead "not guilty" if convicted free care for the entire sentence...


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Jaskalas

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So, If someone gives you a ride and there is a body in the trunk. Even if you don't know it is there you get charged?

A small, easily concealed, object is an order of magnitude different than a rotten stench filling up an entire trunk.
 

Kwatt

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A small, easily concealed, object is an order of magnitude different than a rotten stench filling up an entire trunk.


Good point. Thank You.

So, the man who does not have the use of his arms was supposed to have searched the vehicle for "A small, easily concealed, object"?

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Atreus21

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Is this just insane or what.....what good will come of this if it is prosecuted??
Who wins?
All it does is make the DA look like a blooming idiot!!



TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — A man who can't use his arms because of a spinal condition is being held in jail while facing a gun possession charge his lawyer calls shocking.


Bail was lowered Tuesday for Marcus Hubbard, who has been jailed since his arrest in Trenton in August.

Defense lawyer Caroline Turner said the case against Hubbard, who injured his spine in a car accident and may have Lou Gehrig's disease, "shocks the conscience."

"How could (he be) held for four months on a gun charge?" Turner said during the bail hearing. "He cannot move his arms. They are useless to him."

Hubbard, who's from Salem, has been hospitalized in protective custody since his arrest, The Times newspaper reported (http://bit.ly/1Gr2SKz ). He wore a back brace in court on Tuesday and had difficulty standing, the newspaper said.

Authorities say Hubbard and three other men were in a car that ran a red light in Trenton and was pulled over. They say inside the car police officers found a stolen handgun in a seatback pocket and a prescription bottle of codeine. All four men were charged after none of them took responsibility for the items.


http://news.yahoo.com/man-unable-arms-faces-gun-possession-charge-214709562.html

A state judge agreed during Tuesday's hearing to lower Hubbard's bail from $100,000 to $35,000. But Turner said she'll continue her efforts to have Hubbard freed without bail.

Police said the gun was stolen from Anchorage, Alaska. Turner said the other men arrested in the car with Hubbard told police it didn't belong to him and he shouldn't be charged.

Prosecutors acknowledged Hubbard has no use of his hands but said he still could be guilty of a crime.

Turner said prosecutors are misstating constructive possession laws, which allow charges for someone who isn't possessing an item but can and intends to exert control over it himself or through other people, The Times reported.

Reminds me of blind Londoners being given a 50% discount on the TV tax.
 

Pipeline 1010

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The law is the law is the law. He isn't being charged for gun possession as in had a gun in his hand, but for being in a car with a stolen gun in it that nobody would take responsibility for. It is obstruction of justice to shield others when a crime has obviously been committed. He wouldn't say who was responsible for a stolen gun being in the car. Unless there are a lot of gun nuts on the jury who choose to ignore the law, I would imagine he will be found guilty.

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. Moonbeam loved Big Brother."