Man this sucks

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: glenn beck
were you coming up the mountain near Hagerstown? that is a very steep incline and hard as hell to go slow on it

Looking at the ticket now. I was mistaken, it's actually on I-68 (still there were hills all over the place in 70). It says I was in Allegany, MD.

Originally posted by: akshatp
If you dont have any points on your license before this infraction, 2 points will not cause your insurance rates to go up nor will you be hit with any surcharges as far as your insurance is concerned. Drive safe for the next year and the points come off.

That's good to hear. I had 2 points in my license before, but that was over 2 years ago. Never got a ticket since then.

 

[Xyclone]

WTF. You got a ticket for going 9 mph over the freeway's speed limit? 😕 Unless he was actually doing you a favor, like you said.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

During my trip up north, the entire highway of about 20 cars was going 90 mph. It was kind of weird.

 

[theknight571]

Somewhat related:

Something I've wondered about.... For areas with toll roads and automatic passes (like I-Pass in Illinois) could, if they so choose, the police use your times through the booths to calculate your speed and then send you a ticket?

For Example.... At the speed limit it takes 10 min to get from toll booth A to toll booth B, but the "hits" on your I-Pass show you only spent 7 minutes between the two... ticket gets issued.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: KLin
You've seen semi's doing 90+ mph? I call shens

I've seen semi's doing more than 80.
Perhaps there was SOME exageration in my post ..... (For instance, the part about me doin 80 and trucks passing me like I was going 45.)

But, try driving any of these areas after 11pm.

I57 ... Between I80 and the Kankakee Area. (Usually I exit in Kankakee and then take state highways when visiting central/southern Illinois.)

I88 ... Between Aurora and DeKalb. (haven't taken that route since I dropped out of college in 2000, however, I know I used to keep my old Grand Am pegged at 105mph for the entire duration.

I90 ... Between Elgin and Rockford.

I294.. Not in construction Zones everywhere between Lake Cook Rd up north and I80 to the south. Lots of cars go 100+ when the road opens up a bit.

Also ... there's I90 between the Minnesota/Wisconsin border all the way to the Minnesota/South Dakota border. Speed limit was 80mph last time I drove through there, EVERYBODY was going 90+ (went to visit my uncle in Tea, SD)

And ... How about the entire stretch of I55 between northern tip of Mississippi and Louisiana. Smooth smooth road surfaces, everybody cruising at high speed .... That said I've only driven from Chicago to New Orleans once (in 2001 or 2002) and there was light traffic the entire drive and it was in the spring. (for Jazzfest, around May IIRC)


yes ... I am bored out of my skull hoping the day will end soon so I can leave the office and drive much faster than I should ... hehehehehe 🙂

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: Injury
Hey, if there is no one else around then who am I to judge how you drive? If you lose control then you're only going to screw yourself. But even in moderate traffic you need to err to the side of caution with each and every driver. You never know when they might be dozing off... on the phone not paying attention... changing the radio station... I entirely agree that going with the flow of traffic is the best and safest thing to do, but if there is enough traffic that there is an actual flow, sometimes it's just much smarter to get all the way to the right and get the hell out of their way. Better safe than wedged between a guardrail and mangled metal.

I've never seen traffic flowing any faster than ~70-75

I've seen lots of places where the flow of traffic is much slower, but there are also places where the flow is much faster. There are a lot of roads over the good ole U S of A, and the locations and times that I'm driving are likely vastly different from the locations and times that you're on the road. In any case, If I drive 20 mph less than my tires are rated for, and if I always stay in my lane, and never make any fast lane changes or hard acceleration or hard braking, and If I just "cruise" at a slightly "fast" speed .... I do not think my car will lose control. When there's rain, snow, ice patches, etc I slow my ass down 🙂

Of course there is always the chance of a blowout .... which may cause loss of control, but thankfully, the last blowout I had I was only traveling about 40mph on a local road, and I managed to pull over into a parking lot without any trouble ... and all my other flats have been due to nails, etc ... no other blow outs ....

Anyhow .... I think we agree on many things, you just have a bit (or a lot) more discipline than I when on the road. Kudos to you.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: theknight571
Somewhat related:

Something I've wondered about.... For areas with toll roads and automatic passes (like I-Pass in Illinois) could, if they so choose, the police use your times through the booths to calculate your speed and then send you a ticket?

For Example.... At the speed limit it takes 10 min to get from toll booth A to toll booth B, but the "hits" on your I-Pass show you only spent 7 minutes between the two... ticket gets issued.

They have the technology to do it, however, as of current, they have NOT done this.
If they were do implement a system like that ... I think a LOT of I-pass users would switch to the old toss change into the basket routine ... even if there was a longer wait ...

 

[440sixpack]

Originally posted by: theknight571
Somewhat related:

Something I've wondered about.... For areas with toll roads and automatic passes (like I-Pass in Illinois) could, if they so choose, the police use your times through the booths to calculate your speed and then send you a ticket?

For Example.... At the speed limit it takes 10 min to get from toll booth A to toll booth B, but the "hits" on your I-Pass show you only spent 7 minutes between the two... ticket gets issued.

Oddly I just recently saw somewhere on the net someone claiming this exact scenario happened to them. I have no idea where that was though.

 

[akshatp]

Originally posted by: 440sixpack

Originally posted by: theknight571
Somewhat related:

Something I've wondered about.... For areas with toll roads and automatic passes (like I-Pass in Illinois) could, if they so choose, the police use your times through the booths to calculate your speed and then send you a ticket?

For Example.... At the speed limit it takes 10 min to get from toll booth A to toll booth B, but the "hits" on your I-Pass show you only spent 7 minutes between the two... ticket gets issued.

Oddly I just recently saw somewhere on the net someone claiming this exact scenario happened to them. I have no idea where that was though.

It didnt happen, whoever said it was bs'ing... Currently they dont have the legal right to invade your privacy like that unless you are a suspect in a crime and they need to check your whereabouts. Even this they cannot get without a court order.

It could change in the future though, at which point I would toss my EZPASS in the trash, as I would get a speeding ticket (x2) in the mail for every work day from the NJ Turnpike...

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Highway speed limits are too low.
It's all about revenue generation and not at all really about safety.

Anyhow, sucks you got caught. Hopefully you have an option like traffic school or something where you sit in a boring classrom for 4 or 8 hours ... but it doesn't go on your record then?

EDIT: For the record I live in IL, and when I'm in residential areas, I stick to the speed limit, but on the tollways/freeways .... I just go with the flow ... usually between 80 and 100mph ...

You may be a perfect driver anywhere from 0-100MPH... but the problem is that other people aren't. 80 seems okay to me, but once you get towards 100 you are just asking for someone to do something stupid to cause you and/or them to wreck. 100MPH is not safe.

I don't entirely understand how you can consider 80 to be safe but 100 not...

Assuming that there was also a minimum speed (which IMHO should be required for any speed limits >60), you're just as likely to get into a terrible wreck at the one speed as you are at the other IMHO. 100 MPH also has the advantage that it's nearing the top end of a lot of cars, so the chances of someone zooming past at 40 over is less likely. If everyone goes nearly the same speed, the roadway is safer...

100MPH is really pushing it for a lot of vehicles on the road, while nearly all will be moving ok at 80MPH. If everyone was driving higher end cars 100MPH could be just as safe although there's a large gas millage difference between 80 and 100, for that matter between 60 and 80 there's a large gas millage difference. Faster=less MPG.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Injury
Because driving 30 miles per hour over the average driver is a lot different than driving 10 miles per hour over the average driver? When you are doing nearly 1.5 times the speed other cars are doing people freak out? Because going 80 compared to 70 gives people time to react, but 100 compared to 70 does not?

Pick which one you want.

But you're dead right about if everyone was going roughly the same speed it would be safer... hence why there is a difference between 80 and 100. Don't see how you missed that contradiction.

Oh...I was talking about if they were to increase the speed limit. I don't see a huge difference in safety between a speed limit of 80 or a speed limit of 100, as long as most people drive near it.

Now, if we're talking about an individual driver doing 80 in a 70 zone, or 100 in a 70 zone..I totally agree with you.

 

[bonkers325]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Injury
Because driving 30 miles per hour over the average driver is a lot different than driving 10 miles per hour over the average driver? When you are doing nearly 1.5 times the speed other cars are doing people freak out? Because going 80 compared to 70 gives people time to react, but 100 compared to 70 does not?

Pick which one you want.

But you're dead right about if everyone was going roughly the same speed it would be safer... hence why there is a difference between 80 and 100. Don't see how you missed that contradiction.

Oh...I was talking about if they were to increase the speed limit. I don't see a huge difference in safety between a speed limit of 80 or a speed limit of 100, as long as most people drive near it.

Now, if we're talking about an individual driver doing 80 in a 70 zone, or 100 in a 70 zone..I totally agree with you.

to accomodate a speed limit of 100, practically all of america's existing highway system would need to be redesigned. many highways can safely accomodate 65mph+ speed limits, but most are designed with 65-75 as the safe number.

65mph = a little over 95 feet per second. if it takes you, lets say, 3 seconds to become aware of an obstruction in the road and to apply your foot to the break, then it will take about 700ft of roadway for you to come to a complete stop according to government regulations. at 85mph, you would need 980ft, an extra 40% of road, to come to a complete stop. and 100mph, you would need about 1280ft (an extra 30% increase from 85-mph) to come to a complete stop.

roadway geometry dictates safe speed, and unfortunately most american highways dont have clear stretches of road to accomodate high speed limits!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: EGGO

So it seems that I could pay $100 for a driver improvement program.

right. Driver improvement is the easiest..However today it usually costs a little more than the ticket when in the past it was cheaper.

The problem was you can only do it x amount of times.

In general ticket clinic type sites are best for thouse that want to save their school chances for serious offenses.

When all is said and done court is usually more than online schools.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: NiteWulf

Originally posted by: EGGO
Topic Summary: Ticketed for speeding. Deserved it.

This isn't a post asking about what I'm going to do, just another anecdote should anyone be in my position that there are reprocussions.

:thumbsup: for taking responsibility

beat m to it!!
It`s refreshing to not have to read about how the cop was a total moron...etc, etc