Man the Dealership is a ripoff!!!!!!

[Atty]

I had a shop do mine with parts and labor for $215 a few years back on my Camry. Timing belt had broken, water pump gone, everything replaced and finished.

 

[steppinthrax]

$90 to $120 or so per hour, is the current rates in most areas. So if the parts are correct at about $300 as said above, that is only about 4 hours of labor. Seems reasonable. Depending on the car, getting to the timing belt can be easy or a lot of parts have to come off first to get to it. And I do agree with doing the water pump, as it must come off anyway and now is a good time to swap it. Have them flush the cooling system, put in a new T-Stat and radiator hose while they are doing it. It only only be a few extra dollars for the parts.

The $300 price I quoted above goes above and beyond what they are replacing. They are only doing the water pump and belt.

 

[Doppel]

So I'm hitting around 94K on my camry. Timing belt service comes at around 90K. I'm planning on doing myself, but just to be curious I call the dealer to see how much it is.

They do the water pump and belt which includes a coolant change ($800.00), can someone justify this for me???

Timing belt (goodyear): 15.00
Water pump (incl gasket): 35.00
Gallon of antifreeze: 7/8 bucks

Is this belt able to install itself? You know, the stitches involved in surgery don't cost much either, but unfortunately they don't have a tendency to put themselves in the best spot.

This is further evidence that companies need to F off with timing belts and embrace the 20th century. I avoided buying a used Honda Pilot not long ago a key reason being it was past the due date on the timing belt, and without records, nor any proof in the engine bay that it had been done I had to assume an immediate $800 charge (I got a dealer quote). Seller didn't care for my logic, so he didn't sell a car, but it had to be done and had to be subtracted from the price.

 

[Eos]

Doesn't that Camry require the high end Toyota coolant at ~$25/gallon?

 

[Vetterin]

Tempting fate are we?

Good one! Actually, I just bought the car for him and could find no proof from the owner, Honda records or Carfax that the belt replacement was done. Honda did verify that the belt in the car was the original and the car had been running on borrowed time. They also let me inspect the belt and water pump they removed to prove their point.

 

[bruceb]

It is always a good idea to inspect the old parts before they toss them out. By law, the mechanic shop is required to keep them until the owner can see them, if they ask to. Then they can get rid of them. At least this way, you can, in most cases, see that what was changed really did need to be changed. And an honest shop will not balk at doing this for you.

 

[steppinthrax]

Doesn't that Camry require the high end Toyota coolant at ~$25/gallon?

http://community.cartalk.com/discussion/2235601/coolant-replacement-in-a-camry

Read MikeInNH response.

 

[ballmode]

take it to manimals shop

 

[jupiter57]

Different cars have different layouts.
For Example, (from my own experiences) I can change out a Timing belt on a 2.3L Ford in about 15 minutes, (Had to do it on the side of the road once!) Honda Civic (80's Model) took me about an hour, Small Block Chevy (chain & gear) about 2 hours total time
On a Cadillac Catera, it's somewhat more complicated, what with dual OH Cams, need to remove a lot if "crap" just to get to the cover, remove the Harmonic Balancer, use a special tool to keep all the cogs aligned, very complicated, and it takes me about 5-6 hours, give or take.
(Some Camrys have the same type Engine, 3.0, 3.2(?), IIRC, personally, I wouldn't even think about doing it for less than $800.00).

Oh, and as far as your parts cost breakdown, you cannot just count the Timing Belt alone, there are seals, pulleys, and most importantly the Tensioner that should all be changed at the same time. (Tensioner failure is as common as belt failure in most vehicles)

 

[T2urtle]

$500-800 is the going rate around here.

SOHC lancer I did in about 4-5 hours. Could of done it in 2. Was quoted for $500

Vw 1.8t that belt took me like 10hours. I was quoted $1100 for the job. I would pay someone about $800 easily for this job if I need to do it again.

 

[JEDI]

$125-$150/hr - book labor - chain or dealer

Many small shops $50-$70/hr

the amount of time they quote u to do a job is from a book.
most of the time it's less.

4hr job done in 3hrs: the mechanic moves on to the next car while you wait in the waiting room an hr more and get charged the full 4hrs. lose-lose for the consumer

 

[HarryLui]

the amount of time they quote u to do a job is from a book.
most of the time it's less.

4hr job done in 3hrs: the mechanic moves on to the next car while you wait in the waiting room an hr more and get charged the full 4hrs. lose-lose for the consumer

Speaking from the person with this as his signature.

My typical Fri:

9am: Arrive at work
9-10: check/reply to emails
10: Goto starbucks for coffee. sit outside if nice weather enjoying said coffee
11-2: lunch (1hr eating, 2hrs watching the newly released movie of the week <ie: DarKnightRISES>)
2-3:30 Do some actual work
3:30 surfing web
4: goto bank/deposit huge paycheck. (needed something to do at 4pm)
5: go home