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Man sues ex-fiancee after she left him before the wedding...

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No, it is not "relative".

Even if I had a million dollars, $50k on a wedding is wasteful.

This wedding is an example of what is wrong with society. We have grown fat, lazy and wasteful. Some people spend more money on a wedding, then others make in a decade.

In an era when around 1/3 of homeowners are underwater in their mortgages, when unemployment is having serious affects on our culture, when cities are falling into bankruptcy, people throw outlandish weddings.

I find it disgusting (to say the least), that people throw their wealth around like its nothing.

You have $25, $30k, $50k just laying around and need something to do with it, give it to a homeless shelter. Let that money go to some good use besides trying to impress someone.

you sound moderately bitter.

dont use your hard earned money on something you will enjoy! thats throwing your wealth around! give it someone else to use and abuse!!!


Do you even realize how easy it to spend 50k on a wedding? in chicago, new york, SF, ETC ETC?

It would be very shy of 'throwing wealth around' as its easy to do at most mid level establishments.

I was quite shocked when wedding planning a few years how quickly you go from say....20k to 40k
 
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you sound moderately bitter.

dont use your hard earned money on something you will enjoy! thats throwing your wealth around! give it someone else to use and abuse!!!

No, I am not bitter.

I wonder if the groom in the OP gives money to homeless people, or to beggers?

Does he hold the door open for a woman, or an older person? Does he say thank you when someone helps him?

What about the bride? All of this money has been forked out, but she does not feel responsible?


Do you even realize how easy it to spend 50k on a wedding? in chicago, new york, SF, ETC ETC?

I do not care how expensive it is.
 
No, I am not bitter.

I wonder if the groom in the OP gives money to homeless people, or to beggers?

Does he hold the door open for a woman, or an older person? Does he say thank you when someone helps him?

that has zero bearing on the right/wrong on this. what he does with his money (legally) is his business and not yours.

What about the bride? All of this money has been forked out, but she does not feel responsible?


spending 50k on a wedding should not get all into 'this is what is wrong with society' mode

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...ged-lego-bar-code-scam-by-tech-executive.html


THAT should.
 
Are you still married to the same person you married in 1992?

no, but I have been married 10 years now 🙂

Also, it's clear you don't have much money and all that, but since pretty much the beginning of time weddings were always expensive and about showing your new family and friends a great time if you were of the middle or upper class.
 
No, I am not bitter.

I wonder if the groom in the OP gives money to homeless people, or to beggers?

Does he hold the door open for a woman, or an older person? Does he say thank you when someone helps him?


What about the bride? All of this money has been forked out, but she does not feel responsible?

Is that your standard when confronting someone about the purchase of any luxury good?

Fundamentally, we need very little money to survive. You can get a little shack in the middle of nowhere, have an 20 year old car you fix yourself, and live off of potatoes, carrots, and a multivitamin. You can do this for under a poverty-level income. By this definition, everything above that level is a luxury.

So if you buy a new car, have a house with electricity and more than one room, watch TV, have internet access, eat meat, or have children, you are wasting huge loads of money every year that would be better off spent helping others (I actually know someone who lives pretty close to this mantra).

Material goods are certainly not the most important things in life, but they do make it more comfortable to do the things you do enjoy. Everyone has their own cutoff between "needs" and "excess", defined both by the amount of money they have and the amount of enjoyment they get from those material comforts.

For this couple, however, the wedding was (meant) to be a once-in-a-lifetime event. Perhaps it was to mean they would buy a smaller house, or a Honda instead of a Lexus. It has little relevance as to whether they're good people or not.

FWIW, I'll be getting married in a month. We're doing it at about a third of that cost, but we have comparatively simple tastes. Weddings are expensive, especially when big (200+ in our case).




(As a tangential side note, this is why both very flat and very stratified societies fail. The extremely stratified ones allow for the pursuit of incredible luxury at the sacrifice of social mobility and innovative capacity, while perfectly flat societies remove the incentive to work for those comforts.)
 
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This and TexasHiker is poor.

My home is paid for, as in I have a clear title
My truck is paid for
My boat is paid for
My wifes SUV is paid for
I have no debt except child support
And I have money in the bank

My wife and I are probably doing better then the majority of the people.
 
My home is paid for, as in I have a clear title
My truck is paid for
My boat is paid for
My wifes SUV is paid for
I have no debt except child support
And I have money in the bank

My wife and I are probably doing better then the majority of the people.

Well you got Somalia beat.
 
Nothing wrong with a joint account if you are living together. I don't do them, but those I know that do aren't putting all their money into them...it's the fund to pay the common bills.

that... been doing it since 2 years before marriage and now 10 years later the same way.

Anyway, I don't think she should owe the rent - he did it because of the 'impeding marriage' - not a good enough excuse. If they were already married would he demand she pay back rent if they separated? That's an irrelevant reason. She just owes the joint $19k.
 
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No, it is not "relative".

Even if I had a million dollars, $50k on a wedding is wasteful.

This wedding is an example of what is wrong with society. We have grown fat, lazy and wasteful. Some people spend more money on a wedding, then others make in a decade.

In an era when around 1/3 of homeowners are underwater in their mortgages, when unemployment is having serious affects on our culture, when cities are falling into bankruptcy, people throw outlandish weddings.

I find it disgusting (to say the least), that people throw their wealth around like its nothing.

You have $25, $30k, $50k just laying around and need something to do with it, give it to a homeless shelter. Let that money go to some good use besides trying to impress someone.

let's say someone blows 50k on a wedding. that's maybe $1-2000 in raw material consumables (at the original source), and $48,000 in labor. (value added accrued for every step on actual items, and actual labor paid to people working at the wedding)

so that's 48,000 that goes towards local and distributed economy, paying people's wages, allowing them to buy things of their own. lavish spending of rich people employs more people. gives them paying jobs that allows them to contribute to an economy, rather than lining up at the homeless shelter like you suggest.

lavish spending is not a problem so long as those doing the lavish spending have the financial resources to back it up.
 
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No, it is not "relative".

Even if I had a million dollars, $50k on a wedding is wasteful.

This wedding is an example of what is wrong with society. We have grown fat, lazy and wasteful. Some people spend more money on a wedding, then others make in a decade.

In an era when around 1/3 of homeowners are underwater in their mortgages, when unemployment is having serious affects on our culture, when cities are falling into bankruptcy, people throw outlandish weddings.

I find it disgusting (to say the least), that people throw their wealth around like its nothing.

You have $25, $30k, $50k just laying around and need something to do with it, give it to a homeless shelter. Let that money go to some good use besides trying to impress someone.



We get it - we all get it. You expressed your opinion on money and what you consider wasteful. We get it!

Incurring debt and being in debt is fine as long as you have the means to pay it off in the future. Yes, shit happens, so have an emergency fund.

The money went back into the economy, it did not get torched in a bonfire, it paid for good, services, and salary. If everyone was as frugal/cheap as you our economy would be even worse off.

And lets not forget, many people buy wedding gifts based upon the lavishness of a wedding. If I'm getting cold cuts and beer, you are getting a shit gift like a set of sheets or a few towels, maybe even a mixing bowl.

If you are feeding me Prime Rib, Open bar, great location fantastic DJ you are getting a $200 gift from us.
 
back Rent - no
deposits - yes
money from account - yes

I'd say it depends for the deposits. If he went ahead and started planning all this stuff himself, then it's on him. If she wanted a small wedding and didn't want to spend the money, fine.

But if she wanted all that stuff and got him to put deposits down for it all, then yeah, she owes for some of it.
 
I'd say it depends for the deposits. If he went ahead and started planning all this stuff himself, then it's on him. If she wanted a small wedding and didn't want to spend the money, fine.

But if she wanted all that stuff and got him to put deposits down for it all, then yeah, she owes for some of it.

she has to prove she didnt agree to this wedding. claiming now she wanted a small engagement like that doesnt matter at all
 
That money went to gluttony.

While I wouldn't necessarily call it "gluttony", I do agree with you in that I feel the money could have been better spent elsewhere. Of course no one can say with any certainty which way is the best way (either ethically or when it comes to stimulating the economy) to spend your money, but I'm sure most people would agree that donating money towards medical research or scholarship fund for bright, underprivileged students is less of a waste than ordering a thousand roses for your wedding.

I also don't see why a ceremony meant to celebrate and symbolize the love between man and woman somehow becomes more memorable or better the more money you spend. If you spend too much, at some point, it becomes more about you bragging about your social status, than celebrating your love.

But before anyone is quick to criticize others on their spending habits, I think they had better be willing to examine their own lifestyle first to see whether they too are also committing "gluttony." While you may not spend as much money on weddings or consumer products as the rich, do you really need to dine out at that fancy restaurant once a month?
 
While I wouldn't necessarily call it "gluttony", I do agree with you in that I feel the money could have been better spent elsewhere. Of course no one can say with any certainty which way is the best way (either ethically or when it comes to stimulating the economy) to spend your money, but I'm sure most people would agree that donating money towards medical research or scholarship fund for bright, underprivileged students is less of a waste than ordering a thousand roses for your wedding.

I also don't see why a ceremony meant to celebrate and symbolize the love between man and woman somehow becomes more memorable or better the more money you spend. If you spend too much, at some point, it becomes more about you bragging about your social status, than celebrating your love.

But before anyone is quick to criticize others on their spending habits, I think they had better be willing to examine their own lifestyle first to see whether they too are also committing "gluttony." While you may not spend as much money on weddings or consumer products as the rich, do you really need to dine out at that fancy restaurant once a month?


pseudo lurker!!
 
Mindfuck: Weddings are more than a weekend party for a lot of people.

That's not a mindfuck idiot, that is normal for most.


To others...most of the time people that are spending this kind of 'gluttony' on a wedding or party or just buying a fucking $50,000 watch; also give back a lot. Yeah many do it just for the write offs, but some are compassionate about their charity and like to still have a good time.

The sad part is most that are the most vocal about those like this are the one's that never give anything back themselves and more than likely don't tip properly either.

I donated more last year than my BMW payments over a year will be.
 
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