Man shopping in JC Penny in Utah with AR 15 & holstered Glock.

[DeadFred]

I'm from Toronto, that guy would be tackled to the ground and arrested on SIGHT! So no, its NOT obvious he's law abiding to me.

I remember when i was in the militia here a member of our platoon with a rifle got tackled and arrested by police after falling behind during our morning PT. We were running a few blocks from our armory with our C7s (Canadian M16 variants) around our shoulders when he fell behind. People saw him running alone with a rifle around his shoulder & called the cops (despite being in uniform). 10 minutes later and he was swarmed by police. lol it was hilarious at the time but totally called for.

LOL @ Canadians.

 

[emperus]

Well*It was "adopted" on December 15, 1791 along with the first amendment. During the first 8 yrs of having an actual leader (president washington, 1788-1796)we were still trying to figure out the differences between our elbows and our dick holes.
The original constitution lasted for about 3 years. Why don't you quit trying to discect what I say for specifics and just go with it Because you knew what I meant, you just have nothing else better to do.

I'm glad you found google.. Thanks for sharing information I pointed out to you.

Well, if you put the same amount of effort into the specifics as you did the cursing and vitriol, maybe then I'll know what you mean.

 

[JDBaughman]

I'm glad you found google.. Thanks for sharing information I pointed out to you.

Well, if you put the same amount of effort into the specifics as you did the cursing and vitriol, maybe then I'll know what you mean.

Yea, im sure you know all that off the top of your head

 

[JDBaughman]

I'm glad you found google.. Thanks for sharing information I pointed out to you.

Well, if you put the same amount of effort into the specifics as you did the cursing and vitriol, maybe then I'll know what you mean.

I don't put that much effort into cussing it just flows out naturally when speaking to idiots

 

[emperus]

Yea, im sure you know all that off the top of your head

Yes, I do. I took a government class and do not watch fox news. But also the word "amendment" gives it away.

 

[emperus]

I don't put that much effort into cussing it just flows out naturally when speaking to idiots

Honestly, you sound like one of the most ignorant in this thread. You should be embarrassed by some of your posts. It's incredulous to believe that you can refer to anyone else as an idiot. I mean, from the posts of yours I read, the only people stupider would have to be brain damaged.

But generally patriots know the history of the country they profess to love so much. The fact that you're so outspoken about others patriotism or lack there of and yet don't even know the history of the document our country was created by, should be worrisome to you.

 

[JDBaughman]

Where the fuck did you get the idea that I have no knowledge?! R u fucking retarded?!

 

[JDBaughman]

Ohhhh because I said "original constitution"

Im the idiot?!

You should have enough common sense and deductive reasoning to figure that the original constitution, that applies to citizens in relation to haveing a fuckin president at the time, relates to the second amendment being ratified to it.

But im the idiot, because your too bored so you have to sit there and literally nitpick everything I say, and disect it, and not use YOUR brain, but yet try to tell me about mine. Yea, your the REAL genious.

 

[Zargon]

True, but unless the round is truly inadequate, then if you hit someone in the chest it's very likely they'll be badly injured. And it doesn't change what I said in the post before this one. Even with over-penetration if someone is hit in the chest with almost any rifle round they're probably not going to have a good day.

While there are certain handgun rounds that can do more damage than the .223 / 5.56 I'd still be more likely to worry about the person with the AR-15 than the person with the handgun.

For one a standard magazine for the AR-15/M-16 is more likely to contain more rounds than a pistol with standard magazine (i.e. one that came with the pistol rather than an extended magazine bought separately).

technically

an original 'standard' mag for an AR is 20 rounds

for a glock 17 its.....17 rounds(15 for my G19)

you can get 30 round pmags everywhere for the AR

you can get 33 rounds everywhere for the glock

the AR is easier to shoot, but takes more time to manuver

Id be worried about both of them, but at least its easier to see the AR coming

lets stop pretending like an AR15 is 10000times deadlier than other guns

 

[JDBaughman]

technically

an original 'standard' mag for an AR is 20 rounds

for a glock 17 its.....17 rounds(15 for my G19)

you can get 30 round pmags everywhere for the AR

you can get 33 rounds everywhere for the glock

the AR is easier to shoot, but takes more time to manuver

Id be worried about both of them, but at least its easier to see the AR coming

lets stop pretending like an AR15 is 10000times deadlier than other guns

Exactly.

 

[emperus]

Where the fuck did you get the idea that I have no knowledge?! R u fucking retarded?!

Well posts like the one below are a dead giveaway. Honestly, what are trying to say? It's like ur brain gave up halfway through whatever thought u had.

Ohhhh because I said "original constitution"

Im the idiot?!

You should have enough common sense and deductive reasoning to figure that the original constitution, that applies to citizens in relation to haveing a fuckin president at the time, relates to the second amendment being ratified to it.

But im the idiot, because your too bored so you have to sit there and literally nitpick everything I say, and disect it, and not use YOUR brain, but yet try to tell me about mine. Yea, your the REAL genious.

 

[blankslate]

an original 'standard' mag for an AR is 20 rounds

Sorry I didn't look up the history of the M-16 and I didn't know we somehow time-traveled to the time when the time when 20 round magazines were the standard.

you can get 33 rounds everywhere for the glock

I'm pretty sure obtaining larger capacity magazines for the AR-15 isn't so difficult considering the theater shooter ordered much of his ammunition online.

the AR is easier to shoot, but takes more time to manuver
Id be worried about both of them, but at least its easier to see the AR coming

These are good points it depends on the circumstances, a pistol is easier to maneuver but it's effective range is more limited than a rifle due a number of different circumstances including the barrel length and the rifles butt-stock allowing the firer to get a more stable "stance".

let's stop pretending like an AR15 is 10000times deadlier than other guns

Why don't you stop pretending that I even think the AR-15 is ten-thousand times more deadly than other guns.

 

[JDBaughman]

Well posts like the one below are a dead giveaway. Honestly, what are trying to say? It's like ur brain gave up halfway through whatever thought u had.

The 2nd amendment was added during the first presidential term. I Think that pretty much, in a nutshell, explains my point without having to go into details. It obviously over your head... sorry you dont get it :banghead:

 

[klinc]

What if the guy came from the shooting range and his wife told him to pick up something on his way back? Does he a) Leave a firearm in his vehicle running the risk of it getting stolen or b)have it on him and in his possession cause he doesn't have a safe nearby and run into the store? Since there is no gun drop he must enter the shop with it.

 

[sigurros81]

What if the guy came from the shooting range and his wife told him to pick up something on his way back? Does he a) Leave a firearm in his vehicle running the risk of it getting stolen or b)have it on him and in his possession cause he doesn't have a safe nearby and run into the store? Since there is no gun drop he must enter the shop with it.

What if there is world peace. What if Mr Rogers was still alive? Lots of 'what ifs'. All you have to do is read the article/watch the video from the original post.

 

[JDBaughman]

What if there is world peace. What if Mr Rogers was still alive? Lots of 'what ifs'. All you have to do is read the article/watch the video from the original post.

Well world peace is never going to happen which is why guns are good, m'kay

 

[sigurros81]

Well world peace is never going to happen which is why guns are good, m'kay

Do you even read what you write, or even try for a few seconds to read up on what people are posting before you start babbling.

 

[Zargon]

Why don't you stop pretending that I even think the AR-15 is ten-thousand times more deadly than other guns.

just making the point that so called 'assault rifles' arent that much more dangerous than many other guns on the market and its all media pushed ignorance

the # thing that makes a gun dangerous is the person holding its intentions and training

 

[jackstar7]

the # thing that makes a gun dangerous is the person holding its intentions and training

I'm assuming you meant '#1 thing' and then you listed two things.

Thanks for brightening up my morning.

 

[jackstar7]

Well world peace is never going to happen which is why guns are good, m'kay

That right there, that's math, folks.

 

[blankslate]

just making the point that so called 'assault rifles' arent that much more dangerous than many other guns on the market and its all media pushed ignorance

the # thing that makes a gun dangerous is the person holding its intentions and training

I addressed that point with, imo, a reasonable comparison of fairly typical velocities of the rounds as they leave the barrels of the weapons they are typically fired from.

I'm unaware that doing that implies that one is ten thousand times more deadly than another or requires derisive replies.

Does he a) Leave a firearm in his vehicle running the risk of it getting stolen or b)have it on him and in his possession cause he doesn't have a safe nearby and run into the store? Since there is no gun drop he must enter the shop with it.

Did that last minute "honey-do" notification happen? Going to and from a range I would put the rifle in a locked case and secure that case in the trunk. Unless you're being specifically targeted by a thief who wants your particular weapon chances are people won't be breaking into random trunks looking for a rifle.

 

[JDBaughman]

Do you even read what you write, or even try for a few seconds to read up on what people are posting before you start babbling.

Yea I do. I just think that you dont. You used world peace as an example, which you were obviously being sarcastic, and I replied BACK to what you said with sarcasm. Do YOU think about what you are putting on here?!