Man shoots own son in 'burglary'

[Xellos2099]

tragic



adopted son. not of own blood. doesn't matter. this will haunt him for the rest of his life

This remind me of Avenger where Thor say is ADOPTED when told he killed many people.

 

[z1ggy]

I finally wised up and blocked the chode smoker. Trolls are annoying (unless you're blackinches, which obviously he's not).

What I wonder, is do trolls act this way in real life? Like, would he get up in town hall and say "Oh it was this gun owners wet dream to kill a person." then "lulz"? Also, how do they have friends? I can't imagine anybody that pathetic and ignorant could be socially capable of having a close group of friends, unless of course he's that guy that the whole group secretly hates...I could see that.

 

[spidey07]

Robber had a weapon in his hand, good shoot. Sucks for everybody involved, but trying to rob people or break-in especially with a weapon can get you shot. This was an armed burglar, I'm guessing drugs or messed in the head are a factor. Or just really stupid kid.

 

[SandEagle]

What I wonder, is do trolls act this way in real life? Like, would he get up in town hall and say "Oh it was this gun owners wet dream to kill a person." then "lulz"? Also, how do they have friends? I can't imagine anybody that pathetic and ignorant could be socially capable of having a close group of friends, unless of course he's that guy that the whole group secretly hates...I could see that.

what i wonder is do people get all worked up in real life over little jokes that someone says? you must be a blast at parties, no really.

 

[z1ggy]

what i wonder is do people get all worked up in real life over little jokes that someone says? you must be a blast at parties, no really.

From Urban Dictionary:

Troll- One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.


Did not see the word "joke" in there anywhere. Then again, coming from a fellow troll such as yourself, I could see why you might take his side.

 

[SandEagle]

From Urban Dictionary:

Troll- One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.


Did not see the word "joke" in there anywhere. Then again, coming from a fellow troll such as yourself, I could see why you might take his side.

"fellow troll" insinuates that you yourself are a troll, n'est pas?
but no, i don't roll in the troll hole, sorry.

 

[z1ggy]

"fellow troll" insinuates that you yourself are a troll, n'est pas?
but no, i don't roll in the troll hole, sorry.

"Fellow" was aimed at Amdhunter, the subject of my post. Your reading comprehension blows.

I also never understand why you never use proper caps or grammar. Don't you have any self respect?

 

[Farang]

Something about this doesn't add up. Mark me down as saying a completely different story emerges in the end.

 

[spidey07]

Something about this doesn't add up. Mark me down as saying a completely different story emerges in the end.

Kid was dressed in black with a ski mask and a gun. The father didn't even know it was the kid until police ID'd him.

http://www.fox19.com/story/19655202/state-police-investigate-fatal-shooting

Connecticut State Police spent all Thursday gathering clues and interviewing witnesses. It's unclear why Tyler was trying to break into his aunt's house and why he had a small gun. The shooting remains under investigation.

Jeffrey Giuliano, who is a popular fifth-grade teacher, has not been charged with any crimes.

 

[shortylickens]

I dont know about you guys, but this sure sounds like news to me.

 

[JulesMaximus]

If I didn't know you were trolling, I'd call you an idiot.

If I were a betting man, and I am, I'd bet a whole lot of money I don't have that if he had it to do all over again he wouldn't pull that trigger. See that's the trouble with shooting someone. You can't take it back.

One of my best friends lost his 14 year old son and only child recently so I have a pretty good idea of the horror the step Dad is going through right now.

 

[irishScott]

If I were a betting man, and I am, I'd bet a whole lot of money I don't have that if he had it to do all over again he wouldn't pull that trigger. See that's the trouble with shooting someone. You can't take it back.

One of my best friends lost his 14 year old son and only child recently so I have a pretty good idea of the horror the step Dad is going through right now.

Maybe. In this case it doesn't appear there was much connection between step-dad and son. We have no concrete information regarding their relationship. If the situation described is accurate the father did the right thing. The fact that his step-son was an idiot is tragic, but certainly not his fault.

Pretty sure I'd kill a family member actively and immediately trying to kill me or a loved one. Especially sure if I didn't know it was them. Would probably be the most painful thing I'd ever go through, but legit self-defense against a lethal threat is just that. It's cold, but looking at it through any other lens is to inaccurately judge the situation and make a (in this case) lethal mistake.

Would it be any less tragic if he hadn't fired, the "shiny weapon" was a knife and the son stabbed his father to death?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Maybe. In this case it doesn't appear there was much connection between step-dad and son. We have no concrete information regarding their relationship. If the situation described is accurate the father did the right thing. The fact that his step-son was an idiot is tragic, but certainly not his fault.

Pretty sure I'd kill a family member actively and immediately trying to kill me or a loved one. Especially sure if I didn't know it was them. Would probably be the most painful thing I'd ever go through, but legit self-defense against a lethal threat is just that. It's cold, but looking at it through any other lens is to inaccurately judge the situation and make a (in this case) lethal mistake.

Would it be any less tragic if he hadn't fired, the "shiny weapon" was a knife and the son stabbed his father to death?

Honestly, I'd rather die than have to live with the realization that I killed my own son.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Shows how being trigger happy shoot now ask questions later is not always the best approach.

While I do agree with castle law and shooting home invaders, they should only be shot after several warnings and once they step foot inside and are completely ignoring your requests to stop. I'd even go as far as firing a couple warning shots, make it look like you missed so they think you actually shot at them.

Also it seems like there should be more to the story. I just can't picture even a bad kid robbing his neighbor's (relative on top of it) house. At least go in a different neighborhood, late at night, to not get caught by your own parents or aunt especially if they have a gun. Then again most robbers arn't too smart so maybe he really was trying to break in.

 

[spidey07]

Maybe he was there to rape her, hence the mask.

He had a gun.

 

[irishScott]

Honestly, I'd rather die than have to live with the realization that I killed my own son.

Sounds like you and your son have a positive, loving relationship. Not all families are that way. Coming from my perspective as a son from one of said less-loving families, I was responsible (by necessity) to ensure everyone's physical security. To do that effectively I had to threaten, as well as physically and mentally prepare myself to back up said threats and prepare for any subsequent contingencies. It sucked, but I had to separate emotion from the equation. An attack by any family member on any other family member, including myself, was an attack on my family. Stopping said attack by the least damaging alternative was the right thing to do. If the only alternative was a lethal retaliation (thankfully things never went that far) so be it.

I mentally trained myself, imagined myself in the most fucked up situations I could think of, to infinity. The emotions aren't eliminated, but they can be controlled. Said training was tested more than once and came through. I stayed rational and under control under extreme stress, although only barely in one instance.

I'd say your statement that you'd "rather die" than kill your own son regardless of circumstance is simply a matter of lack of exposure to that circumstance. Which is good, excellent, I'm not saying that should be changed. Simply that, from a more dispassionate perspective (namely, discounting parental instinct), there are instances where the father killing the son is the right thing to do.

 

[Farang]

Kid was dressed in black with a ski mask and a gun. The father didn't even know it was the kid until police ID'd him.

http://www.fox19.com/story/19655202/state-police-investigate-fatal-shooting

I'm just saying the entire story does not add up to me. After running through plausible scenarios, my guess is suicide-by-Dad. Total speculation based on circumstances. Why would you rob your neighbor, that's an easy way to get caught. And why would you attack your Dad, seems the best thing to have done would be to quickly identify yourself when he points a gun at you.

The fact that the two people coming up with the story are brother and sister also lends itself to this story being made up, and something else happened. The scenario where this kid is breaking into his aunt's house with a ski mask? Seems the least likely.

 

[eits]

just read this story on cnn.com.

i'm wondering if the kid was trying to be a peeping tom and look in his step-aunt's window or something... or rape her? and why would the kid lunge at the step-dad? and what the hell was the "shiny object" in the story? they never say what it was...

maybe he was playing flashlight tag with his friends.

edit: according to the story spidey posted, the shiny object may have been a small handgun.

 

[Smoblikat]

Ah. I wonder how he felt after this.

On one hand, he got to live the gunholders wet dream of taking a human life, on the other, the dangerous criminal he thought he was killing was his own blood.

lulz.

Why do you think all people want to kill other humans? Or are you just being a dick and trying to prove a point that the second amendment was a waste of ink.

 

[HeXen]

i do kinda wish more people would invest in non lethal firearms like beanbag, rubber..etc when it comes to protecting your stuff. I think the point should be to stop an intruder, a bullet is just a tad over doing it. Guns have their place, but there are many instances where something like rubber bullets would do the job too.

 

[Baked]

All burglars should be shot dead on the scene, no question asked.

 

[BladeVenom]

He's livin' the dream bro. It is always better to kill people trying to protect a bunch of inanimate objects than to call the cops.

Someone was breaking into his sister's house. You wouldn't protect your own sister?

I'd tell you to turn in your man card, but I guess you never had one.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

All burglars should be shot dead on the scene, no question asked.

I can think of a question or two. Like maybe, "Hey, is that my son?"

 

[JulesMaximus]

Someone was breaking into his sister's house. You wouldn't protect your own sister?

I'd tell you to turn in your man card, but I guess you never had one.

My sister lives in Florida. I live in CA. Logistically, the scenario you just presented is completely impossible.

My wife works out of the house, I told her the other day that if she ever sees someone in our backyard or if someone breaks into the house while she's there to just get the fuck out of there and go to one of our neighbor's and call the cops.

 

[amdhunter]

Why do you think all people want to kill other humans? Or are you just being a dick and trying to prove a point that the second amendment was a waste of ink.

I live in NYC. I see guns kill people all the time. My neighborhood is #1 in the entire State in murders right now. All I know about guns is that people get them in hand to rob/kill other people. No one here gives a damn about human life.

So excuse me when I say I can't stand people who support guns.