Man 'on neighborhood watch' kills 20-year-old outside home

[Zaap]

Trayvon hit Zimmerman first (prosecution testimony and physical evidence),

After being followed around by a prick with a gun. Getting your ass beat up for being a stalking creep, in a fight you started, is not grounds for killing the other person who is unarmed, in my book. Trayvon wasn't stalking Zimmerman and trying to fight him, he was on his way somewhere where he had every right to be, being followed by the neighborhood psychopath.

Further, I'm not sure if the Wikipedia article mentioned that Zimmerman was responsible for criminals being caught in the neighborhood.

This is what I mean though- being the neighborhood fucking HALL MONITOR doe NOT make a person "responsible for criminals being caught." It doesn't give one any authority to decide who is a criminal, and who isn't. It doesn't give anyone the right to stalk other people. It amazes me any of this even has the be pointed out. Even the police dispatcher told Zimmerman NOT to keep following Trayvon. He did anyway. He had no business doing so. He was in no danger (other than what he eventually caused himself) and he didn't actually know of any threat to anyone's property. Trayvon as it turned out, had every right to be there.

It amazes me people have to have it explained this is America, where a person has the right to walk through a neighborhood on the way back to the place they are staying, without being stalked by nosy, armed, hall monitor psychopaths. A person has every right to defend themselves from such pricks also. Getting your ass beat cause you're a pussymelt with a gun, but who cant actually fight once the person you've been stalking finally turns your bullshit on you, isn't an excuse to then kill that person and claim self-defense.

You're right its not like this current case- I find the Zimmerman case actually far worse. He had NO BUSINESS whatsoever anywhere near Trayvon. He wasn't defending his home, property, or anyone else's. He was stalking an innocent person through the neighborhood like the psychopath he is.

To make this case like that one, the prick in this case would have had to go out of his house, and FOLLOW the victim several blocks, be on the phone with dispatch being TOLD not to, doing it anyway, being finally confronted by the person alarmed that some fucking psycho is stalking him and therefore getting his ass beat (and rightly so) then deliberately shooting the guy.

 

[Zaap]

I didn't realize approaching someone was worthy of being beaten for 30 seconds straight (assuming Zimmerman did confront Martin, which doesn't seem to be the case).

Oh boo hoo, he was losing a fight he went FAR out of his way to provoke. Idiot deserved to get his ass beat. Losing a fight (you started) for being a wuss isn't proper grounds to kill the person IMO.

 

[DrPizza]

(Psssst. You're ignoring two things: Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon, Trayvon made it to his father's house, Trayvon stated that he was going to teach Zimmerman a lesson)

 

[woolfe9998]

So, I'm not sure if the wikipedia article mentions that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around (according to the prosecution testimony), Trayvon hit Zimmerman first (prosecution testimony and physical evidence),

Everything you wrote there is at or close to totally irrelevant, other than what I quoted above. Even Martin beating on Zimmerman at some point doesn't matter, IF Zimmerman was the one who started the fight. You can't kill someone because you're losing a fight that you yourself started.

Above, you're saying there is direct evidence that Martin threw the first punch? I wasn't aware of that. Do you recall specifically what this evidence consisted of?

 

[Zaap]

(Psssst. You're ignoring two things: Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon, Trayvon made it to his father's house, Trayvon stated that he was going to teach Zimmerman a lesson)

Sorry to derail the thread, but I hardly see how I ignored anything when I stated as much. Zimmerman losing sight of Trayvon is exactly where things should have ended. Not that he has much excuse to be anywhere near Trayvon before that, but after that point he definitely doesn't. A person you've 'lost sight of' because they've gone on about their business is not posing any threat to you. Zimmerman should have got back in his car and taken his coward ass home.

Zimmerman DESERVED to be 'taught a lesson' for being a stalker prick. Someone teaching you a well-earned lesson by kicking your ass after you've stalked then through the neighborhood is not a valid excuse IMO for executing that person.

 

[glenn1]

Sorry to derail the thread, but I hardly see how I ignored anything when I stated as much. Zimmerman losing sight of Trayvon is exactly where things should have ended. Not that he has much excuse to be anywhere near Trayvon before that, but after that point he definitely doesn't. A person you've 'lost sight of' because they've gone on about their business is not posing any threat to you. Zimmerman should have got back in his car and taken his coward ass home.

Zimmerman DESERVED to be 'taught a lesson' for being a stalker prick. Someone teaching you a well-earned lesson by kicking your ass after you've stalked then through the neighborhood is not a valid excuse IMO for executing that person.

If you're going to say Zimmerman deserved to be taught a lesson then others can say Trayvon Martin deserved to get dead.