Man on first, full count, less than 2 outs.

[Reckoner]

For a hit and run, the batter needs to swing at the ball no matter what, because the runner will be going as soon as the pitcher begins his motion to the plate.

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: TheBDB
My point is the coach can call a hit and run with a full count. Just because the pitch is a ball doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to be a hit and run.

You are wrong.

Hit and Run
A hit and run is a play in baseball where the baserunners are put in motion before the ball is hit and the batter is required to attempt to make contact with the pitch, whether it is a ball or strike.

That is an accurate description of a hit and run when there are not 3 balls, because if the batter does not at least foul the ball off the runner is usually toast.

However, that doesn't mean with 3 balls you can't put the runner in motion and have the batter attempt to swing...ie not a steal. If you personally don't want to call that a hit and run because the batter doesn't HAVE to swing that is fine with me. It doesn't mean that isn't what is going on...

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: TheBDB
That is an accurate description of a hit and run when there are not 3 balls, because if the batter does not at least foul the ball off the runner is usually toast.

However, that doesn't mean with 3 balls you can't put the runner in motion and have the batter attempt to swing...ie not a steal. If you personally don't want to call that a hit and run because the batter doesn't HAVE to swing that is fine with me. It doesn't mean that isn't what is going on...

You're being obtuse.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Explain.

If it's a grounder, yes.
If it's a pop up, no.

and that has nothing to do with the batter having a full count either.

Right.

If he's asking whether or not to steal, that's a whole different story.

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

The runner leaves way before contact on a hit and run.

 

[sao123]

baseball no longer exists as a credible national sport....

so why are we even bothering talking about it?

 

[OdiN]

The correct answer is:

WHO CARES?

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: TheBDB
That is an accurate description of a hit and run when there are not 3 balls, because if the batter does not at least foul the ball off the runner is usually toast.

However, that doesn't mean with 3 balls you can't put the runner in motion and have the batter attempt to swing...ie not a steal. If you personally don't want to call that a hit and run because the batter doesn't HAVE to swing that is fine with me. It doesn't mean that isn't what is going on...

You're being obtuse.

Sorry.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: sao123
baseball no longer exists as a credible national sport....

so why are we even bothering talking about it?

That sounds official.