Man on first, full count, less than 2 outs.

[chuckywang]

Explain.

 

[Tu13erhead]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Explain.

If it's a grounder, yes.
If it's a pop up, no.

 

[Kev]

woops, misread

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Explain.

If it's a grounder, yes.
If it's a pop up, no.

and that has nothing to do with the batter having a full count either.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Kev
woops, misread

that's only if there was 2 outs.

 

[Tu13erhead]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Explain.

If it's a grounder, yes.
If it's a pop up, no.

and that has nothing to do with the batter having a full count either.

Right.

If he's asking whether or not to steal, that's a whole different story.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Kev
woops, misread

that's only if there was 2 outs.

 

[theknight571]

Yes...but then he'd have to anyway... being on 1st and all.

But like mentioned before he has to watch for a popup/flyball... so he can get back to first if it's caught.

Dang... 5 replies while I was typing... lol I need to go back to typing school.

 

[Homerboy]

uhh no you dont run on any contact. Full count is irrelevant.
so you run on a pop fly to shallow right field and you're already rounding 2nd... guess what? double play.
you run if its on the ground.

Only time you run on ANY contact is 2 outs.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Explain.

If it's a grounder, yes.
If it's a pop up, no.

and that has nothing to do with the batter having a full count either.

Right.

If he's asking whether or not to steal, that's a whole different story.

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

 

[DBL]

Normally, you run on a ground ball and hold up on anything in the air. If you are running ON THE PITCH, you must try and pick the ball up once you hear or see contact. You don't really run on contact though. You still need to be aware.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

No. A hit and run is when the runner runs after the pitcher has committed to the plate. IOW, once the pitcher steps towards the plate, the runner can take off. You won't see a hit-and-run on a full count b/c it forces the batter to swing, which is not a particularly smart play with 3 balls. 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 are all more likely hit-and-run counts.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Do any of you guys play organized ball? You're moving on EVERY contact. That's critical, you need to get the best jump possible to break up the double play or go 1st-to-3rd on a single. You then pick up what the ball is doing from your 3rd base coach and the movement of the infielders. If it's a grounder you keep running hard and try to break up the force at 2nd. If it's a hit you round 2nd and watch the 3rd base coach for the signal on whether to advance or stay at 2nd. If it's a popup or easy fly ball you retreat to 1st. If it's a long fly that *might* fall in you get a few steps from 2nd and wait. If it falls in you run, if it's caught you have enough time to get back to first.

 

[Abel007]

NM, I concur with GagHalfrunt.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Do any of you guys play organized ball? You're moving on EVERY contact. That's critical, you need to get the best jump possible to break up the double play or go 1st-to-3rd on a single. You then pick up what the ball is doing from your 3rd base coach and the movement of the infielders. If it's a grounder you keep running hard and try to break up the force at 2nd. If it's a hit you round 2nd and watch the 3rd base coach for the signal on whether to advance or stay at 2nd. If it's a popup or easy fly ball you retreat to 1st. If it's a long fly that *might* fall in you get a few steps from 2nd and wait. If it falls in you run, if it's caught you have enough time to get back to first.

he didn't say "MOVE" he said "RUN" big difference. You don't start break neck running on any contact.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

The common situation where you run "on the pitch" is full count and two outs, and no open bases behind you.

In that case only two things can happen
1. You advance by hit or walk or
2. The side is retired

 

[theknight571]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Do any of you guys play organized ball? You're moving on EVERY contact. That's critical, you need to get the best jump possible to break up the double play or go 1st-to-3rd on a single. You then pick up what the ball is doing from your 3rd base coach and the movement of the infielders. If it's a grounder you keep running hard and try to break up the force at 2nd. If it's a hit you round 2nd and watch the 3rd base coach for the signal on whether to advance or stay at 2nd. If it's a popup or easy fly ball you retreat to 1st. If it's a long fly that *might* fall in you get a few steps from 2nd and wait. If it falls in you run, if it's caught you have enough time to get back to first.

he didn't say "MOVE" he said "RUN" big difference. You don't start break neck running on any contact.

LOL Depends on the player.... when I played I ran all the time.... unfortunately I was so slow that just moving wouldn't allow me enough time to get to 2nd on a single... lol

My baseball career didn't last much past little league.

FYI...What GagHalfrunt said is what I was trying to say in my original post.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Do any of you guys play organized ball? You're moving on EVERY contact. That's critical, you need to get the best jump possible to break up the double play or go 1st-to-3rd on a single. You then pick up what the ball is doing from your 3rd base coach and the movement of the infielders. If it's a grounder you keep running hard and try to break up the force at 2nd. If it's a hit you round 2nd and watch the 3rd base coach for the signal on whether to advance or stay at 2nd. If it's a popup or easy fly ball you retreat to 1st. If it's a long fly that *might* fall in you get a few steps from 2nd and wait. If it falls in you run, if it's caught you have enough time to get back to first.

he didn't say "MOVE" he said "RUN" big difference. You don't start break neck running on any contact.

Exactly, but also consider a line drive, which is why you can "break" in a direction but you must be able to get back to the base quickly if necessary. If your goal is to always get the greatest possible jump, you will get doubled up a fair amount of time on 1st, 2nd and 3rd base. It's a common mistake that even MLB players make from time to time.

BTW, I played ball for 16 years competitively.

 

[fitzov]

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Explain.

If it's a grounder, yes.
If it's a pop up, no.

If it's a pop-up, wont he be signalled by the coach to hold-up at some point?

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Gibson486

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

No. A hit and run is when the runner runs after the pitcher has committed to the plate. IOW, once the pitcher steps towards the plate, the runner can take off. You won't see a hit-and-run on a full count b/c it forces the batter to swing, which is not a particularly smart play with 3 balls. 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 are all more likely hit-and-run counts.

No it doesn't. He only has to swing if it is going to be a strike. If it is a ball the runner advances automatically and can't be thrown out.

 

[Tu13erhead]

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Gibson486

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

No. A hit and run is when the runner runs after the pitcher has committed to the plate. IOW, once the pitcher steps towards the plate, the runner can take off. You won't see a hit-and-run on a full count b/c it forces the batter to swing, which is not a particularly smart play with 3 balls. 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 are all more likely hit-and-run counts.

No it doesn't. He only has to swing if it is going to be a strike. If it is a ball the runner advances automatically and can't be thrown out.

If he doesn't swing, it's not a hit and run. Hence the term "hit and run".

 

[JDrake]

I'd run.. its gonna be a strike/hit

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Gibson486

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

No. A hit and run is when the runner runs after the pitcher has committed to the plate. IOW, once the pitcher steps towards the plate, the runner can take off. You won't see a hit-and-run on a full count b/c it forces the batter to swing, which is not a particularly smart play with 3 balls. 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 are all more likely hit-and-run counts.

No it doesn't. He only has to swing if it is going to be a strike. If it is a ball the runner advances automatically and can't be thrown out.

...which is why it's not a hit and run. A batter is supposed to swing on a hit-and-run and make contact regardless of whether the pitch is a ball or strike.

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Gibson486

If you are running on contact, it's a Hit and Run.

No. A hit and run is when the runner runs after the pitcher has committed to the plate. IOW, once the pitcher steps towards the plate, the runner can take off. You won't see a hit-and-run on a full count b/c it forces the batter to swing, which is not a particularly smart play with 3 balls. 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 are all more likely hit-and-run counts.

No it doesn't. He only has to swing if it is going to be a strike. If it is a ball the runner advances automatically and can't be thrown out.

...which is why it's not a hit and run. A batter is supposed to swing on a hit-and-run and make contact regardless of whether the pitch is a ball or strike.

My point is the coach can call a hit and run with a full count. Just because the pitch is a ball doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to be a hit and run.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: TheBDB
My point is the coach can call a hit and run with a full count. Just because the pitch is a ball doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to be a hit and run.

You are wrong.

Hit and Run
A hit and run is a play in baseball where the baserunners are put in motion before the ball is hit and the batter is required to attempt to make contact with the pitch, whether it is a ball or strike.

Who gets yelled at after the batter swings at ball 4, the coach or the batter?